Archived Messages - March 2000 Saw the latest 'photo of the week' - loved it!! Has anyone heard from Canada ?????? Hello are you still there ? We're still waiting....waiting............ Pat Desmarais <greatphoto> nh, usa - Saturday, March 04, 2000 at 10:13:40 (EST) We are preparing an e-mail announcing the 2000 Time Capsule winnners which is expected to go out tonight. Project Staff <reception@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 12:17:27 (EST) Hi everyone, I«m doing my PhD reserach in Social Sciences about the new millenium, so besides this site if you«re interested in it or have any other site to indicate me. Please contact: walder@ibm.net M™nica Mastrantonio Martins <walder@attglobal.net> S‹o Paulo, Brazil - Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 17:05:02 (EST) I want to know the result of the project. CanindŽ Soares <caninde.nat@zaz.com.br> Natal, Brasil - Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 22:55:51 (EST) Alx... Would you or a member of your staff be able to send me the html for the "2000 The Millennium Photo Project" gif or jpg. Is is the one at the top of the page. I would like to add it to my web site. I WAS just going to scan a picture of it and add the link to it, but just as I started to do it my scanner went dead. It is totally shot. Thanks, Tom Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Long Island, NY, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 00:09:20 (EST) Congratulations to all the photographers who took part in this excellent project. I hope there are more projects in the near future!! Vincent Joachim <throughmyeyes@yahoo.com> Calgary, Canada - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 01:33:07 (EST) Well we were right up to the deadline but we made it with mere seconds to spare! The first e-mails announcing the winners started flying out at 11:59pm earlier tonight. Now if it's okay with you guys, I'm going to bed... Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 03:10:43 (EST) Good Morning, Got your e-mail Yahoooooo! Can't wait to see the photos. Will add the link from my website to The Millennium Photo Project. Are you going to be able to link to our sites ?? Have had several hits from people around the world to my website. We will post our photos that we submitted soon. Is there anyway we can find out which of our photos were selected? Anyone with a website, let's hear from you so we can view some of your work. My website site is: greatimpressionsphoto.com. Come visit. Congradulations to everyone who made it through the first round. Pat & Rob PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, usa - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 09:01:20 (EST) LOL Alx. Sleep well! You guys sure know how to draw out the suspence. I had written it off until I checked my mail one last time before bed and saw the notification. Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication and that of the rest of the staff. This has been a first rate operation!! Sandra <FBTdra9> Seattle, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 09:14:10 (EST) Rats, too early in the morning to spell correctly, I guess. Make that "suspense". Blush Sandra <FBTdra9@aol.com> Seattle, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 09:19:12 (EST) Well, I made the first cut of 2000 photos.... how about you guys? Is the suspense killing you as much as it is me? Who will make it into the book? I am keeping my fingers crossed. I wonder how many total entries they received and had to choose from to get the first cut of 2000. Time will tell... http://www.geocitites.com/~lordofthenexus Robin Hood <Robin_Hood_Az@yahoo.com> Phoenix, USA BABY!!!! - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 11:18:25 (EST) Damn - nothing like getting a typo in your attempt to plug your website.. 2nd time is the charm? http://www.geocities.com/~lordofthenexus Robin Hood <Robin_Hood_Az@yahoo.com> Phoenix, USA ALL THE WAY - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 11:21:27 (EST) Just wanted to say thank you! What an incredible journey you all have created for us to take part in. This is truly an amazing celebration of life. My web site address is: www.joanlauren.com Joan Lauren <joanlauren@joanlauren.com> Los Angeles, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 11:54:40 (EST) Received my notification early this morning. I was so excited I had to wake up everybody in the house to show them the email. I don't have my webpage up and running yet. But I'll be sure to post again when it's complete. Thanks to Alx and crew for coordinating the project, judging thousands of photos, etc. I think all photographers who entered the contest deserve congratulations. We all documented our part of the world to share with this and future generations, whether they be our friends and relatives or people we'll never even meet. Have a good millennium, everyone! Michele <cinepoet@yahoo.com> San Antonio, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 14:25:49 (EST) I just received the notification that one of my pictures was selected for the Millennium Photo Time Capsule Collection. Thanks! The project was really challenging and I am very happy to be among the selected ones. Congratulations to all other winners and participants. Marco Saborio <msaborio@habitat.co.cr> San Jose, Costa Rica - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 15:05:07 (EST) Thanks for the e-mail re the 2000 Millennium Photo Time Capsule. It lessens the disappionment I had the with cloudy weather over New Zealand at New Year. New Year? - 10 weeks gone and only 42 weeks to the next!! Allan Porter <a-p.porter@xtra.co.nz> Auckland, New Zealand - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 16:10:53 (EST) Hi, I just received the e-mail that my photos were selected to be part of the time capsule. As Gorbatchov said "who comes late will be punished", I wrote this because at the 1st of May 1999 which was Saturday I raised early (normally it's my long sleeping day), to get the possibility of an early subscrition to this project and now I got the reward as beeing selected. Best regards from MŽxico Rainer Ehlert <Rainer@rsfotografia.com> MŽxico, MŽxico - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 18:39:27 (EST) All three of my photos were pictures of people who were doing nothing for their celebration. I never thought I would be selected because my photos were different than the others. You just never know. Thank you so much. Thanks Wayne for the encouragement and friendship. Susan Rudolph <susanrudolph@yahoo.com> Honolulu, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 23:03:29 (EST) Hi you all!! It was great to see the e-mail from "Millennium Photo" on my entry box and read the line: We have wonderfull news to tell you! I was in the waiting list and now I'm part of time capsule, and very happy, of course. Congratulations to all winners, participants and organizers. Good luky at the next step! Andre Marco Gomes <amog@bioqmed.ufrj.br> Rio de Janeiro, Brasil - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 23:07:22 (EST) In time: How can we find out wich picture was selected? Andre <amog@bioqmed.ufrj.br> Rio, Brasil - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 23:12:31 (EST) I to was quite amazed that one of my pictures was chosen for the time capsule. It is an honor that I will always keep close to my heart. This will be only the second time that one of my pictures is published. The other was of a house fire that my local weekly newpaper published. For an amateur to be given this honor is wonderful and elating. Talk about being in a good mood at work all day!!! To those chosen, congratulations. Chris Vaughan <cobrakai@ammerman.net> Wolfe City, USA - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 23:55:20 (EST) Aloha All!! You sure know how to keep us photogs in suspense...:-)! Much Mahalo to Mr. Alx Clive and everyone...including the Judges for whos hard work made this project/assignment worthwhile for us photogs and everyone involved! I am also very happy to assist my new friend Susan for whom it is an honor to know that we both represented our state...Hawaii!!...talk about a very proud moment!! You are very welcome Susan and I am very happy to inspire you and let your photography express your thoughts...its LIFE! Again....Mahalo Nui Loa Millennium Staff and Judges and to every single photog, who in Martin Luthers phrases...I have a dream!!! We ALL made it happen and come true! Aloha!! Wayne <nikonf4s@juno.com> Honolulu, USA - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 04:06:51 (EST) Got the notification yesterday and I still can't believe it - Alx, when you have woken up, will you please pinch me. This is a dream - a dream come true! Thanks for the opportunity. Had loads of fun and met so many new people while I took photos. Some interesting, some curious, some who just became friends. This is one experience I am never going to forget. Oscar De Mello <Oscar.D.Demello@aexp.com> New Delhi, India - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 11:54:04 (EST) it's a very happy news for me indeed...to know that my entries made it to the 2000 ...it's a career boost for me as i'm a photography student.Thank you to the judges. btw..anyone wonder how many entries did the millenniumphoto recieved? kwokyoong lee <nomels@hotmail.com> kuala lumpur, malaysia - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 12:11:29 (EST) Felicita›es pela realiza‹o do projeto milnio e espero um grande sucesso no trabalho final. Jo‹o Noronha <joaonoronha@geocities.com> S‹o Paulo, Brazil - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 19:54:55 (EST) Hello yall!! Just got the e-mail telling me that I made the 2000s. I«m very excited. And very thankfull to all who made this project. Whish I make to the book too. Why not? See yall. Claudio Capucho <cs_capucho@uol.com.br> Sao Jose dos Campos, Brazil - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 20:48:11 (EST) Congrats to all. How fun is this? I was out of town in the Detroit area on the 7th at a seminar. I check my e-mail from a friends house...11:00pm I excepted the fact I was not chosen. The next morning my husband calls, who was home with my 3 kids. " Whats wrong?" I said " Your in !" he said . In our P.J.'s my friend and I started jumping around yelling...heaha! Thanks to all who helped me out. Diane Sumner <dsumner@datawise.net> Allegan, MI, USA - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 21:57:10 (EST) Thank you for the news. Being in Time Capsule Collection, I will be among friends. To take part on The Millenium Project had been great. I'm anxious for the site and book. But, why don't you give us some statistics about entries, countries, everything on the Project? I know, you are working hard, but ask yours computer... Just for curiosity... Aguinaldo Aguinaldo A. Ramos <guina@domain.com.br> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 22:47:20 (EST) Congratulations to all!!!!!! I got the e-mail just as I was about to sign off. I was so excited, I couldn't sleep all night. Being disabled and making it to Times Square in New York City was a great feat for me to accomplish. But now to be in the Time Capsule was a dream come true. I have started a website which includes "The Millennium Photo Project". I am thinking of adding any photographers website link who participated in the project. Anyone interested in it, please e-mail me. I have seen a few that I would like to add. Pat from GreatImpressions and Valentin from rusphoto are just a couple. My website URL is www.tdphoto.homestead.com --- I will be adding a lot more as time permits. Tom Tom D. <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic, NY, USA - Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 23:42:38 (EST) The anxiety almost killed me..& when i got the mail the server gave me some problem the first time...... & then I S A W I T... It definately is a super great start as an amatuer Thanks to all at Millennium Photo.. Reshma <reshmakamat@yahoo.com> Goa, India - Friday, March 10, 2000 at 09:00:07 (EST) Hi Everyone, Let Alx know website addresses so we can get a link from sites to sites. Tom, go ahead and link to my site. I will add a link to your site. Today we are adding the link to MillenniumPhotoProject.com with a couple of photos that we did on the project. Anyone else able to show us your photos???? Congratulations to everyone and thanks to Alx and his staff for all their hard work. This project has continued to be exciting and rewarding. Can't wait to see all the photos. The ones I have seen have been delightful. Pat PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Friday, March 10, 2000 at 12:29:41 (EST) This is so great, so excellent, so just what I needed to boost my spirits and career today! I am so excited to be in the Time Capsule Collection that I already feel like some kind of a celebrity! I of course did everything at the last minute because I was helping other people celebrate and trying to make sure that they were having a great 2000 experience and at the same time trying to get some images. I had huge expectations of taking rolls and rolls of film, processing the next week and having plenty of time to print and hand color my favorites( I do B&W). Of course that didn't happen- I took 1 roll, had them processed at my favorite local lab, Kirkwood Photo in Bloomington,(just in case I might mess up on my loading on the reel and lose any of these precious images) and then printed them in my darkroom.I did pick my favorite- but there was only one out of the whole roll that I was really excited about so I filled everything out and the kids and I all jumped in the car and drove to town(we live in the middle of the forest)and got into the post office and up to the window just as they shut the door behind me and the postman was so sweet as I was shaking and jumping with excitement that I still had a chance to be in the Project! I agreed to bring him in the book if I made it in and we could all celebrate together! The photograph that I chose was a very closeup head and shoulder shot of my 9 year old daughter in her ski hat and sweater, her brothers'goggles, and her long blonde curly hair backlit. She was looking sideways over her shoulder at me with a grin and freckles. She was on her way to hit the slopes at a local ski resort up the road from our home. It was going to be her "1st ski of the Millennium". I have since printed that same photo very large, 20x24 and she has it hanging in her bedroom. I feel that I am leaving her and my other children really special memories of their childhood by trying to shoot lots of film of them and teaching them how to print and share my love of photography. Thank you for this fun, challenging, once in a lifetime photography experience! I am looking forward to the book! Rebecca Anne Garges <RGarges1@aol.com> Nashville,IN, USA - Friday, March 10, 2000 at 13:54:18 (EST) In response to the questions about statistics and number of entries. To tell the truth, we had significantly less entries than we had originally hoped for (but more than 2000!). Many people told us they were sick, their pictures didn't come out, others dropped out entirely or never followed through in sending in their material etc. I don't really see what it will achieve in laying out the final numbers. The point is that those people who did make the time capsule DESERVE to be there and should feel proud to be a WINNER. If everyone insists, then I'll reveal the actual statistics. I personally think it's better left unstated, but it's up to you guys... Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Friday, March 10, 2000 at 23:44:00 (EST) Alx, I guess the zing of "winning" is diminished in learning that the competition wasn't as keen as we had hoped. Still, the project was a success in attracting some fine photographers from what I've seen featured, and the book should appeal to thousands! The world awaits its publication! Thanks, crew, for working so hard to make this happen. If any of you are interested in travel photos and faces that elicit deep emotion check out my gallery. Liz http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/thumbnail/887/index.html LizLarrabee <Lizlarrabe@aol.com> Venice, FL, USA - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 02:53:44 (EST) I think I feel like everyone else. I am working on putting my pictures up on the web at this time. It would be nice to see what everyone else did too. I, however, am going to post all of the pictures I took, not just the ones submitted. As for the statistics, it would be interesting to learn how many I was chosen from, but it is not something that I must know. I will be happy just knowing I had the honor of being chosen. Chris Vaughan <cobrakai@ammerman.net> Wolfe City, USA - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 06:33:54 (EST) Hello all! I guess, for curiosityâs sake, I would like to know the statistics on the entries as well. But donât put to much emphasis on it. There is more to being a good photographer than being able to take technically good photographs with good composition. It takes the character and commitment to follow through on a project or assignment. Those who were there so they could be chosen deserve the chance to win. Congratulations to all! John Rupe <jrupe2@tampabay.rr.com> Tampa, Fl., U.S.A. - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 15:04:49 (EST) Can we display a copy of our image if it was a Time Capsule winner as long as we don't sell it? I have a showing of some of my work at a local country club coming up April 1st and I would love to be able to say that this image was a winner! Also my local newspaper told me to contact them if I was a finalist- could they print the image in the paper? I know people are putting there images on web sites- is this allowed with winning entries? Is it as long as we don't sell any image that was a winner? I could probably look this up in the rules but I'm already on here so I'll ask. Thanks! Rebecca Garges <RGarges1@aol.com> Nashville, USA - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 15:11:18 (EST) Numbers are only numbers. What is important is the work that we accomplished, the friendships we have established, and what is done with millennium photos. The end result is the book will be published, the photos will be on the website and 50 photos are award winning. That's a lot from a single idea of "What if." The whole project excited us to go out into the world and record a memory. Pat Desmarais <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 18:34:21 (EST) Anyone who registered for the initial project, photographed, documented, sorted, edited to death their work, and agonized over what to submit, deserve to be commended for the stamina to follow thru. The stats are not important to me. Now I will go outside and stand in the fresh four inches of snow that fell here in New Hampshire. Tuesday we hit 70 today it is 30 and fresh snow. That's New England. Rob Robert A. Edsall <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Saturday, March 11, 2000 at 18:52:50 (EST) Forget the initial stats. Does it really matter if you were 1 of 2,000 out of 20,000 or 1 of 2,000 out of 5,000? Each of us had fun capturing on film (or memories of a lifetime. Now someone else has recognized those memories as being something we already knew -- special. That's enough for me. Each of the 50 who are chosen for the book will know that they were 50 of 2,000. And the other 1,950 will still have the memories, their photos in an online collection, and a free book. And don't forget the approximately 17 cents (USD) in royalties... :-) Congrats to all. Josh <mrjosho@yahoo.com> Long Island, NY, USA - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 10:47:57 (EST) There are some things in life that are just meant to be, and I feel this project is one of them. For me personally making Alx reveal the stats only takes away from the magic and excitement and takes it into a personal ego trip. This project is bigger than than. I don't get involved in group things, but I was drawn to and pulled into this project by I feel a greater force. Perhaps those who did not follow through with their entries were "weeded out" before hand... and those who did follow through were meant to "be chosen" all along. Just think, there are millions and millions of people on this earth who can pick up a camera and take a picture. But we, and I believe from a higher source were chosen from the start to document life at this time. How else can you explain how you really got here? My God, we're a few thousand people out of millions! Now those are stats! Joan Lauren <joanlauren@joanlauren.com> Los Angeles, USA - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 12:39:13 (EST) Alx, we can't find a commitment in the rules of The Millennium Photo Project about statistics or number of entries divulge. So you don't have to do it! I agree with you, Pat and Josh. And let's wait the last step. Orlando Discacciati <orlando@millenniumphoto.com> Barbacena-MG, Brazil - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 20:28:02 (EST) Like many of you I checked my e-mail several times on March seventh without any luck, I accepted the fact that I wasn't going to be chosen...then I decided to check it one more time the next day and then I got THE E-MAIL! I was so excited! I printed the e-mail and showed it to everyone I knew (and some I didn't)! I am so happy to be included in the time capsule collection. I agree with Joan that we are a few thaousand people out of millions...what a great accomplishment for all of us!! Those are the only stats we need. Thanks to Alx and everyone that let me be a part of this project! Congrats to All!!! Kimberly Forster <kyle923@yahoo.com> Sanford, Colorado, USA - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 21:20:19 (EST) Hi Alx, Where is our photo of the week ???? did you forget to post it ???? Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 22:10:14 (EST) Well it is disappointing that there weren't as many entries as expected, but nonetheless, I would still like to know the total number of entries received. For some people this was a first time in submitting photographs for publication, and a realistic view of how many were received VS. how many chosen would be very helpful and insightful and might lend some perspective to future projects of this type. Also, when will we find out which of our entries was selected for the capsule or is it possible to have more than one of your entries in the capsule or book? http://www.geocities.com/~lordofthenexus Robin Hood <Robin_Hood_Az@yahoo.com> Phoenix, USA - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 10:25:54 (EST) Hi all....I am interested in the stats. Firstly I'd like to know how many registered in the first place; then how many sent photos in and/or how many photos were received and where did they all come from. For me this is an interesting part of the whole story. Alex - maybe you & the team want to decide one way or the other so that we don't turn our whole attention to this debate. If you have other reasons for not publishing the stats eg promotional, then just let us know. Cheers Kerry Kerry <kerry.griffiths@xtra.co.nz> Wellington, New Zealand - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 16:23:41 (EST) Congratulations to all the Time Capsule winners! Yes, it is TRULY an honor to be chosen! I took 4 rolls of pictures and one (or more) of my picture(s) won! Totally awesome! I had a blast taking pictures of everything and everyone at Youth Link 2000 in Philadelphia, PA. When I registered to be part of the project I had no idea where I would be for New Years, then my opportunity to attend Youth Link came about. The location for taking pictures was perfect! Our Christian youth rally took place in the Marriot Hotel. Connected (literally) to the hotel was the Philadelphia Convention Center, and the world's largest innercity indoor mall. The Convention Center celebrated the Millennium for 24 hours (each hour some part of the world rang in the year 2000). I had plenty of "models" (of all ages) to photograph. I also took picture of a wedding (about 700 couples tied the knot) at the Convention Center. Unfortunately my pictures turned out too dark (I couldn't get close enough). My scrapbook holds the memories of the last days of 1999 and the start of the millennium... I even included that "press pass" we could download from the site. 1-1-00 will never be forgotten, and I now have a special honor that will make the moment even more extrordinary! Thank you! Yesenia Tuckwiller <imhisclay@aol.com> Richmond, VA, USA - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 21:43:36 (EST) I am still cracking up here over Josh's 17 cents comment. I had figured on higher sales!! Hee hee. This was a wonderful project to be involved in. I do not have much experience in contests but it has been my experience that you send your entries, be it photos or any other contest, out into the darkness and usually hear nothing unless you win. We have been treated like staffers and respected artists here and I am very impressed. I was really blown away to get a notice that my entries arrived and were ready to judge. Most times you can dot an i wrong and be thrown out of the running and never even know it. I am flexible about what they tell us. Happy either way but I must say that I have told people that I took part in the largest shoot in history and there were approximately 6000 photographers. That is what the estimate was just before the shoot and though some may not have submitted, it does not mean they did not take part. Again, I would like to thank the team so much for treating us with so much respect. I stretched really hard for every inch of this project and I am very proud of that. I am proud of me, of the project, the founders, the team and my fellow photographers. Darn, we are good!!! Hugs, Sandra Sandra <FBTdra9@aol.com> Seattle area, USA - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 02:50:48 (EST) Greetings! I also was wondering if there's a way to find out *which* of my photos were selected for the Time Capsule. Or were all *three* of them selected? (A couple people wanted to know; a woman who was the subject of one of my photos really was excited about the project when I called to track her down and get the model release; I'd like to know if it's her picture so I can let her know too. Also, two of my closest friends spent an unusual three hours in a Thai restaurant with me wading through four rolls of pictures, all of us aruging about which three should be my entries. When I sent them copies of the notification, "Which picture got in?" was their very first question!) And to Tom, the gentleman from Mastic NY who got to Times Square -- you are a braver man than I. I tried getting there at 4 in the afternoon, couldn't get within five blocks of the place, gave up and went to the road race-in- costume in Central Park instead. Kim W. Kim W. <nyge@pipeline.com> New York City, USA - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 13:12:00 (EST) To Kim W. It was really easy. The first thing I looked for was where the press signs in. After asking about 20 police officers, one finally pointed me in the right direction. I showed the Project's Press pass and the Accredation letter and I was given an Official NYPD Press Pass. That allowed me into an area where only the press was. With the NYPD pass, I had access to almost any area. It was really cool. I was also given a "Special" press book which gave information on EVERYTHING about the event. I even tried to get 2 of them so I could send one to Alx, but only one per photographer. Anyway, the whole night went well. It was a GREAT experience. Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic, NY, USA - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 15:17:56 (EST) Does anyone know any of the answers to my questions about displaying winning entries? (from March 11 message posting)Thanks! Becky Rebecca Garges <RGarges1@aol.com> Nashville, IN - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 20:58:49 (EST) Rebecca, It is my understanding that you can do whatever you want with your photos. You retain the copyrights to the photos. PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 21:23:35 (EST) I totally agree with Sandra. Thank you to all the Millennium project staff! Thank you for all those e-mails you send us that keeps us up-to-date on what's going on. Never has my efforts as a photographer been acknowledged so much. Thank you! Yesenia Tuckwiller <imhisclay@aol.com> Richmond, VA , USA - Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 21:28:44 (EST) Hello everyone from England, Ireland, and Scotland, My daughter will be traveling (with her friend)to your countries at the end of April thru May. She wants to visit the countryside as well as the cities. It is always so nice to have someone who know their way around. Any help you can give would be appreciated. You can e-mail me at: greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net. Thanks Pat PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, United States of America - Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 07:07:46 (EST) Hello all, first of all thank you Millennium Photo for selecting my pictures to be on the 2000 Capsule list. I am eagerly waiting for news on the final selection of Judges' list. I hope to be able to make it too :) Anyways it has been a honour to be able to work on a global with all of you guys out there. I hope in the future, we can set out to do something like this again!! Chaw Shin Pui <cpui@sfu.ca> Vancouver, Canada - Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 09:57:46 (EST) Its sad that the participation was not as expected..Those who have missed it have unfortunately missed a lot.... All the same I would like to know about the no of entries recieved..Just for personal curiousity...if it is not too much an issue of concern.This would definately not change anything for me...The memories of the event would still be just as precious .I have already been just too thrilled about the whole thing right from the time I first visited the site .I definately look forward to a lot many trilling ventures together . Reshma <reshmakamat@yahoo.com> Goa, India - Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 11:14:37 (EST) Its sad to know that the participation was not as expected.I would say that those who missed it...missed a lot.All the same i would be interested in knowing the total number of entries recieved..just for personal curiousity, if it is not too much an issue of concern. This definately wouldnt change anything for me...The memories of being thru the event would still be just as precious.I definately look forward to a lot more thrilling ventures together. Reshma <reshmakamat@yahoo.com> Goa, India - Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 11:20:11 (EST) Hey.. Sorry. I made some mess the first time ..& the message didnt show the first time..Retyped it..because i could not remember the exact words.Was i shocked ...Both of thee messages landed on the discussion board..OOPS Reshma <reshmakamat@yahoo.com> GHoa, India - Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 11:26:14 (EST) About entries: I'm sure that all of us are winners! Of course, first of all, happened a kind of natural selection inside the amount of people who would wanted participate. Most of us tend to think our photos could be better than we really result. I can say that because my photos weren't enough good, in terms of my spectations. But I decided to sent them because I knew they were interesting. An other problem that dispirit many people was the conditions of the weather just then when 2000 arrived. Photos took under rain almost always seem to be a little ugly! Probably it was reason for lots of abandons. All of these motives are completely normal, by the way the Project goes on being a great success! About statistics: No obligation! No pressure! Of course I'd like to know, for example, how much brazilians participated, if somebody from Nepal or Belize tried or something else like the distribution of the entries around the world, but I'm not so cared about. We will have this data about the winners, at last! The most important is the quality of the result. By the samples of 'Photo of the Week' and comments from the photographs in the list, I'm sure it will be excellent! Well, finally, don't worry about numbers! (But if you have same percentages... ) For the crew's work, only my admiration. Congratulations for all of you. And if you are really too much busy, forget the stats! Aguinaldo A. Ramos <guina@domain.com.br> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 14:48:31 (EST) Well, like a lot of people, I am very proud to have been involved with this project, and hope it will go on.... I am very pleased to have made it to the final 2000....dying to know which photo(s) made it!!! And I would like to say thanks to all people involved in putting this project together. This has truly been a once in a lifetime opportunity for me. LaDonna <powelllm@vlasic.com> Winslow, usa - Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 20:45:47 (EST) Hello, My daughter will visit Scotland next month. She and a friend are now planning where they will visit. Am interested in anyone's advise on the best places. Also, what is the weather like in April ??? They would like to see as much of your country as possible. Anyone have any advise ??? Thanks. Pat PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 12:09:19 (EST) It's been very motivating reading everyone's comments on the issue of statistics. This is what I had always hoped the discussion board would be used for. I am now more than ever convinced that it achieves little in revealing the numbers. Joan's comment that there are millions and millions of people who can pick up a camera but only a special group of us that serendipitously came this far, I think sums it up perfectly. From April of last year when the site launched until the shoot on the 31st, some 150,000 people visited our site and DID NOT decide to take part. If you ask me, they're the 'losers!' Perhaps this is a little harsh but I'm trying to make a point. When our book comes out this Autumn/Fall, and every single one of those who took part has their name listed, those who are interested can count the number of names. I like Sandra's angle on registrants - 6000 people DID register. For all we know, every single one of those people took part but some just never followed through with sending in their pictures. It's also been pointed out to me that in the last couple of weeks of December and leading into January, we opened the project up to non-registrants (albeit under special circumstances). Wesley and Elvis who did most of the photo sorting both tell me that we had a significant number of entries from people who had not previously registered. So maybe 6,000 or 8,000 or 10,000 people took part and we just don't know about it! If anyone asks, you can confidently say that the project had thousands of participants and thousands of entries. I still feel it was the largest photojournalism project in history. And I'm sticking to it! Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 12:12:54 (EST) Alx -- WELL SAID... To many of us, numbers mean nothing. I agree this was the biggest photojounalism projecy EVER!!!! For those who ARE so concerned about the statistics of the project, do a little math. If there were 10,000 enrties and each one sent in 3 photos, well, that would be 30,000 photos to be judges. Of the 30,000, there were 2000 picked for the Time Capsule. The rest is up to you to figure out. All I know is that I am one of the few that don't care about the statistics. I am just very happy that one of my shots was picked... All our concerns should be on the thoughtfulness of Alx and his staff for the making of the project. NOT THE NUMBERS!!! Another concern should be focused on advertising the Time Capsule, as well as the book. This is best done through word of mouth, and not the arguing of stats. Everyone has to pull together and remember YOU are now part of history that can not be changed and be thankful for the memories that will be passed down from generation to generation. Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic, NY, USA - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 16:15:49 (EST) Hello world, Just a quick note to ask if anyone else has done a press release on their work with the millennium project. Tom is right that if we want people to be interested in purchasing the book and looking at the website then we have to give them the information. Word of mouth is good but we can all get the word out there with press releases. Newspapers and periodicals are always looking for stories. It's easy to write a press release. Be sure to send it to all the local newspapers. The more people that know about the book the more book sales and the more $.17 commissions !!!!! lol PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, , USA - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 22:12:14 (EST) GREAT IDEA PAT.... I forgot to mention that..lol Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic,NY, USA - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 23:38:04 (EST) I would like to thank Alx and everyone for an exciting time and have afew questions to ask. I am in the Navy and I was overseas during the Millennium celebration. I am on a submarine out of San Diego and myself and a friend were in Singapore for the turn. I had seen the small article in Popular Photography and we decided to give it a whirl. Sure enough, we each were selected. We had no idea until just now since we did not return to San Diego until the 18th of March. I am thrilled and could care less about statistics. I hope everyone had a good time and it is exciting to know that we participated in something like this. Can only hope for the next stage. Take care. Please give me a hint when the book will be out. Thanks. Jim De Boer <gooberman@access1.net> San Diego, USA - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:10:08 (EST) Hi all, I too am extremely excited about getting into the Time Capsule. I still have to look at the confirmation email and pinch myself. Back on May 1, 1999, I would have never guessed that I would have made it this far. WOW! Anyway that's enough babble about me. I was just wondering about that whole press release thing. I would like to put something in my local paper but I don't want the story to be about me. (I'm not one for a whole lot for public attention for myself-which doesn't include my work). Can anyone drop me a line with any ideas for what to put in an article. P.S. Has anyone recv'd any new news about the top 50 winners, or about the final entries into the book? Just wondering. Happy shooting everyone... Martha <vols_01001@yahoo.com> Agawam, MA, usa - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:03:54 (EST) Not sure if Alx wants to give anyone guidelines for writing a press release but I have written a few so here goes. You want to make sure you have the WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE and HOW. If you don't want you name to appear in the article then use the locality as the WHO. Such as (for martha): headline -- Agawan Celebration part of International Project - (not sure where you photographed) "How the World Celebrated the Millennium," an International project, will include photographs taken locally (include the area or place). Thousand of Photographers From Around the World captured the once in a lifetime event of celebrating the turning of a century. The best of these images will appear in the book "How the World Celebrated the Millennium" which is scheduled to be released in the fall of 2000. Thousand of photographs will appear on the website. For more information, or to be notified when the book is availble, log on to Millenniumphoto.com or call (000) 000-0000. End. Make sure you put your name, address, and phone# at the top of the page. Make it easy for the editor to reach you. You can double space the article or type in large print. Make it simple to read and not too long. If you include a photograph you are more likely to have them print it and more likely people will read the article. If the photograph includes people, and they will be recognized, make sure you let them know it may be in the paper. Lastly, send it to EVERY local newspaper, magazine, and periodical. A little publicity goes a long way. If anyone else has ideas for the press release lets hear them. Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, USA - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 09:51:42 (EST) G'Day Guy's, well done to all concerned, I am so proud to be part of such a great project.This is one of the positve things the web can and should be used for.Bringing people closer together.I just wanted to ask what do we do with video footage taken on the day of us shooting. Thanks, Good luck to all involved. Tom McGhee <tmcghee@one.net.au> Sydney, Australia - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 22:46:52 (EST) Huh huh huhuh huh.... I think this project really sucks..... I think everyone is a "winner"..... and losers first! I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me..... huhuh huh huh... typical American..... where are the critics? who is going to really ask something about this "Project"? Don't you see they're having you by your (PROFANITY REMOVED).....and you just say how great it is to be a Time Capsule Winner.... as if that's an achievement....huh huhhuhhuhuh.... this project really sucks....... Pierre Paris, France - Tuesday, March 21, 2000 at 03:33:53 (EST) Well I thought I might wake up and see some good news today it has been 2 weeks now since the capsule winners email. Has anyone been notified about being in the book yet? That last post from France was a bit sad- (By the way I love that song by Beck, but it doesn't seem appropriate in this case!) I thought French men were so passionate and sweet? Why don't you ask some questions yourself instead of complaining? Also about the press releases- they have all of that (or did anyway) on the project site- it was very helpful as I had never written one before, at least not in the proper format. Just modify it to add what has been done since 1/1/2000. I'll keep watching my email. Could you please list any more sites/links that are interested in photographers that were in this project? I think that with so many people that were involved in this project that more would take the time to add their thoughts to this site- it would be more fun. I have not done the chat thing on Sundays- is that still going on? Thanks! Rebecca Garges <RGarges1@aol.com> Nashville, USA - Tuesday, March 21, 2000 at 08:57:31 (EST) Hi Rebecca, I don't think the press release information is still on the site. I didn't see it anyway. Alx, can you give us any info on when the list of photos for the book will be released? thanks PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, , USA - Tuesday, March 21, 2000 at 09:49:36 (EST) We have added a new page where you can see two versions of the cover design for the book. It's accessible from the news page. Please add any comments you have about the design. Project Staff <reception@milleniumphoto.com> Project HQ, - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 05:04:04 (EST) I am being censored by the "Project". They don't seem happy with the TRUTH. The TRUTH is that we are ALL "Time Capsule Winners"!!!! And you know why. You won't get anything. They get it ALL. Pierre Paris, France - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 05:22:25 (EST) I sent in a couple of pictures from Tokyo which reached the top 2000, so I don't know if they will eventually reach the book. It really doesn't matter. It really is a hard job being a book editor. And some folks are going to be dissapointed. You could have 500 in different cities that look alike, and one that is a little bit different. Doesn't mean that we are all not great photographers. Also, anybody who has been in the book publishing business should know what a huge risk the publishers are taking. Anyway, point is, I live in Tokyo, Japan, and I travel often to Philippines and other parts of Asia. If anybody needs TRAVEL/LIFESTYLE/POTRAIT/COMMERCIAL/ETC. photos of this part of the world, get in contact. I use 35mm and medium format. Best regards to everybody out there......Peter. Peter Oxley <fotokyo@yahoo.com> Tokyo, Japan - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 05:46:14 (EST) Mr. Pierre, the suggestion that everyone is a time capsule winner is simply not true. I would be happy to discuss this or any other concerns you may have if you would be so kind as to write to me in person so that we could have a discussion. The use of profanity and making wild unsubstantiated allegations serves no purpose other than to alienate others and cause us to have to 'censor' your postings. Please be aware that many under 18's are very active participants in our project. Thank you. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 06:17:42 (EST) Thank you for the opportunity to vote on the proposed book cover/s. Your subject choice was very appropriate and inventive in using a unique recyclable material w/photograph. Keep up the hard work- it is appreciated! A proud PCA alumnus (University of the Arts)-1961. Barbara L. Rishel <boleroscra@aol.com> Eustis, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 08:33:26 (EST) Thank You to the Millennium Photo Crew. I appreciate the emails to keep us up to date. I enjoy viewing the "photo of the week." You can view some of the millennium photos I shot in St. Louis at www.artisticphoto.com.... I will be having a photography exhibit in St. Louis, August - October to show the images I shot for that 24 hours. It's been a fun and exciting project to be a part of! Thank You!!!!!! Christine Christine A. Olson <colson@bhil.com> Dorsey, IL, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 09:13:16 (EST) OK Alx. I thought this was a DISCUSSION forum? So I'd rather discuss some topics here instead of e-mailing you directly. It's not my intention to discuss with you in the first place, but with other people on this forum. If you don't agree with my statements, then that's OK with me, but let other people be free to read my messages. They have a mind of their own, although I have the strong impression that you only reserve space for the mindless. In order for other people to know where this is going about, please put my previous two messages back on the discussion forum. You won't need to "censor" them, because there is no dirty language in it, or thoughts that would spoil children's minds. I'm not Marilyn Manson. I only have a lot of criticism and you will have to face that. There is no reason to keep my messages away from the others so please put them back or I will. Pierre Paris, France - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 09:34:53 (EST) Mr. Pierre, none of your messages have been REMOVED. The only removal that has been done is the profanity you used in an earlier message. There were a series of significant updates done to the web site overnight including the monthly archiving of the discussion page for February. It is possible this may have affected postings that were done during the night. Is this when they were supposed to have been removed? Regardless, I am perfectly happy to hear any criticism you may have IN PUBLIC and respond accordingly. I am glad to see you are now writing in a more civil manner although it is strange that you continue to hide your identity. I make my e-mail address known, why don't you? Your beef appears to be in regards to statistics and I have stated our policy on this matter. That will not change. If you have any other queries, please by all means make them known. Alx Klive, President/Founder <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:05:44 (EST) Congrats to all who have participated in this project, I wish to thank all who had done the spade work for this project also I wish all the associates who worked behind the screen of this project. Leo <leo@avonin.com> New Delhi, New Delhi India - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:23:27 (EST) Thank you Leo. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:26:31 (EST) I'm very excited and happy to have my photos chosen for the Time Capsule 2000 photos. I'd like to have the stats of how many brazilians have be chosen. Have you already finished the next selection of 500/600 photos ?? Best wishes !! Eleonora Saldanha Eleonora Saldanha <eleonora.saldanha@alcoa.com.br> Recife, Brazil - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:26:44 (EST) The first votes from the cover design showdown are in. So far this morning we've had 96 votes for Design #1 and 55 votes for Design #2. There have been 18 abstentions. Tonight we'll try to put up a page with all the comments that you've sent in. Some of them are most interesting. Back in a few hours... ZZZZzzzzzzzzz Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:36:11 (EST) My messages were clearly removed and I don't say YOU did it but someone else who might have been "shocked" by the "criticism". My identity doesn't matter. We are all anonymous photographers and 99.9 % of us will never make it as a photographer. The problem is that we all think that we are great photographers because we made it as a "Time Capsule Winner". You make us believe that we are great. I also believed in this soap-bubble. So now to the point. If there is anyone else who believes that this whole "Project" is overacting, then reply and post your comments here (I hope your comments will make it to this discussion forum and stay longer than my previous messages). To state that this would be the biggest photojournalistic event in the world is really ridiculous. There were and are many more larger photo contests (with great prizes, which are clearly not to be won here) on the Internet. I feel misled and I want to hear about other people who feel the same. There is absolutly no honour in being selected for thid "Time Capsule" or even this book. I am afraid that my expectations were false. In Europe we don't know these kind of misleading events. Now back to work and over to you. Pierre Paris, France - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:39:48 (EST) The cover vote sent in. Want to say that I am delighted that my entries were picked (don't know exactly which one as yet) to be in the time capsule and I am keeping my fingers crossed I make the book. Competition is pretty stiff, looking at the weekly pictures and I am trying not to have high hopes, but just like everyone who submitted, I really want to be picked. Good luck to all of us and I hope the book becomes a huge success. Kim Allen <kimallen@ih2000.net> Lumberton, TX, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:45:03 (EST) What did you think of the cover designs? I thought it was great that we were given the opportunity to vote and give an opinion. Shawna Manning <shawnaturtle@yahoo.com> College Station, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 10:48:08 (EST) Pierre, you're not going to let me sleep are you?! .....I'm sorry you feel 'misled'. The proof will be in the pudding however. The book is REAL, our publishers are printing a quarter of a million books, we had Getty, Corbis AND S.I.P.A all vying for our photos at New Year's; Epson and Le Meridien Hotels are sponsors, six judges flew in from all over the place, we have an excellent set of photos displayed on our website. A year from now, if the book is as successful as we hope it will be, every one of our Time Capsule, Book and Award Collection photographers will be receiving cheques in the mail. What more do you want? Anyone else care to comment? I really have to 'go home'... Have a great day everyone. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 11:04:00 (EST) Congrats! Everyone !( except Pierre ... if you dislike the project so much.... go away and leave us alone...) I am honored and humbled by the effort it took for this project to get off the ground. To me, stats really aren't the important thing here , anything that brings everyone around the world together as this project has should be what counts. I am just a farm girl from Idaho and I am so honored to just be included in this great project with photographers from all over the world... it's incredible!!! And to be chosen to be in the first 2000...is a dream come true. Thank you so much and good luck to all to reach the top 600. Take care all. Peace...... Dianne Humble <countrydreams@execu.net> Middleton, u.s.a. - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 11:06:13 (EST) Shalom to all participants. It was a blast. Lots of fun and a feeling of belonging to something bigger than usual. I'm usually very quiet but something about this discussion group really hit me. If thousands of people happily took part and submitted photos, then why does it appear to be a discussion group of about ten or twelve people? Where are all of those other photogs? Are they just shy? I think that one (Pierre) out of millions of people who have access to this site and project, is just another stat and Alx should not get too upset about him. By the way Alx if you make some money out of this...GREAT..and if I make some money out of this then even better. Ideas come along about one per minute. It takes guts and energy and vision to take one simple idea and make it work. Thanks everyone who did. To those who didn't, sit back and enjoy the book. Douglas Guthrie <Guthrie45@yahoo.com> Jerusalem, Israel - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 11:24:04 (EST) Alx & crew: I do believe in freedom of speech, but this "Pierre"(if that is even his name???) Is a pain the you know what. He is apparently suffering from some kind of problem that makes him want to take out his anger(?) on this project. I, like most of the other participants, feel very, very fortunate to have been involved in this project from the start. Let's all just ignore him and maybe he will go away...... Now, on to more important things. I love the ideas for the book cover, and have voted. I, also just can't hardly wait until the book comes out! I know the pictures are going to be fantastic! I am also very curious to know which one of mine made it into the 2000. I know that everybody has worked very hard to make this project work and for that I thank you very, very much. Just don't let one bad apple(nutcase?) spoil the whole bunch. All involved deserve a great big thanks!! LaDonna LaDonna <powelllm@vlasic.com> Winslow, usa - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 11:55:38 (EST) As a proponent of free speech, I applaud Alx and the team for allowing Pierre to post his drivel. That said: Pierre, get a life. If you don't want to play, go away. I participated, took my pictures of the pyramids, submitted them, and got an email about being in the Time Capsule. If I never get a dime, I will be extremely happy to have been a part of it all. My Millennial Eve was far different (and better) than it would have been if my senses had had not been heightened by my participation in the project. Pierre, did someone promise you the cover? Did you take out a mortgage based on expectations of million franc royalties? Why are you so incredibly and ridiculously hostile? Do us all a favor, Pierre. Please. Go away. Thanks, Alx, and keep up the terrific work. Most of us appreciate it. Dick Smith <rhsmith2@home.com> Alexandria, VA, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 12:35:58 (EST) Wow, does Pierre have personal problems or what? Were you planning on making a fortune from the proceeds of this book? If you were, then you need to be a little more realistic. Did you see this as your chance to break into professional photography? Sorry, it's not that easy. I submitted three photos, one (at least) will be included in the Time Capsule. I will know if it is not there because I will look for myself. Not too difficult. I hope to be included in the book, of course. I do not plan to make any significant amount of money from this project, even if I do get in the book. I get a free copy of the book, which I look forward to. Any money would be gravy and I don't care if I get any at all. There will be opportunities during this process to make sure we are all being treated fairly. At this point, I am not sure what Pierre is even compaining about. I am not sure he does. I would like to know an estimate of how many photos were submitted in total and how many made the time capsule. Did every photographer "make" the time capsule???? What percentage of photos made it? I don't know. It doesn't matter much either way but if you guys published some stats you might quiet people like Pierre, at least until he can find something else to complain about. When will the list of published photos be out? Thank you for your time. Steven Steve <sjmaerz@shawcoinc.com> Madison, WI, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 13:26:22 (EST) Hi all, was just reading and saw a question about where are all the photographers. Im one, made it into the time capsule. I got the e-mail after getting back from Mardi Gras in New Orleans. I was sorting through about 50 e-mails and then I saw the project e-mail. I was just as excited as everyone else, printed the letter, brought it to work and all that. As for Pierre, I dont understand what the problem is. I dont know your motives for joining the project, I dont know what you wanted to get out of it. As for my motives, well, I have always loved the "Day in the Life" books and have always wanted to participate in one. It has been my dream to get published and this project gives me a chance. This project is worldwide making it bigger than any "Day in the Life" project. If I dont make it to the book, well eventually I will make it into another book. This project has been fun all the way through for me. I normally go to a friends house on New Years eve and just party. This year I took pictures for the greatest photojournalism project in history. As for Pierres comment on "99.9% of us never making it in photography", Life is what you make it, if you truly believe you wont make it you might as well put all of your equipment up on e-bay because it appears that you have given up. As for the rest of us, lets take the motivation and good feelings we have gotten from this project and ride them to our next project and continue to strive to be the best photographers we can be. Brent http://www.iconnect.net/home/bprice Brent <bprice@iconnect.net> Antioch, IL - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 14:14:10 (EST) WOW !! Loved the cover ! I must say I do like the one without the 2000 across the front. The photo is so good I would hate to see it covered with wording. It looks more professional with the words on the top or side. Who took the Shot ???? Alx, just want to tell you that we appreciate how you have handled this project. It is not often that we, as participants, are included step by step in the process. Yes there's probably been larger contests (meaning more entries). And there are contest with hugh prizes. (just finished one that had $100,000 Grand prize) But I have never heard of a project with this many participating, all within a 24 hours period, and all photographing the same event has ever been accomplished. What we did IS important and I'm proud of the way we have come together as a group to accomplish this goal. Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, , USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 15:52:29 (EST) Your project has brought a new group of people together, wouldn't it be interesting to continue that association and tackle further photo projects together, or even the "Real Millennium"? I still think the great difference for me this New Years was being an observer not a participant and remaining totally sober! It's a real buzz and an honour to be involved, thank you. Daniel McGrath <DESPERATEDAN2000@xtra.co.nz> Whangarei, New Zealand - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 16:20:48 (EST) Hi everyone! I just logged on and got a chance to read some of the discussion messages. I didn't get around to posting a message right away when I was notified that I made it into the "Time Capsule", but after reading about Pierre and his opinions about this project, just want to say I am very honoured to be a part of this project. I am sure there are many more photogs out there, but still didn't get around to posting a message here...just like me until now. About Pierre's comments that "99.9% never make it in photography" and the fact that we all think we are great photographers just because we were chosen for the "Time Capsule" is simply not true. I don't need someone to tell me that I create good photographs to be satisfied with the photos I take...you do not have to be a professional nor get any of your photos published to be a labeled as a good photographer! Pierre definitely had major expectations about this project, very different from the rest of us. I never had any of my images published before, but that has never stopped me from taking more photos or simply enjoying the hobby. Also, to compare this project to any other photo contests (as Pierre noted) is like comparing apples to oranges. Everyone who signed up for this project and followed through with the entries knew very well what the project was about. Alx and his staff gave us the opportunity to become involved in a community enterprise...how many opportunities like this are out there? Not many. Standard photo contests are always around, but not this type of project. This project was created to commemorate an event which we will not experience again in our life time and to simply say that I was a part of this project is good enough for me. Hats off to all the "Time Capsule" winners and to Alx who came up with this ingenious project! Victoria <vvancek@lightspeed.bc.ca> Pitt Meadows, Canada - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 17:31:30 (EST) Good idea: let's work a little, chosen the cover or sending press-releases (good sugestion, Pat!), because we seem to be too much anxious and nervious, waiting for the news. Maybe Pierre could relax, knowing if he is picked for the book... I am one of the first to touch the "hard" theme of statistics. When I did it I thought it could bring some more fun and excitation to the discussion list. Some people went worried about the numbers but, finally not me, at all, because I realized that each one of us is one of the 2000 chosen among 150.000 people that had the chance of take part in the Project. I don't know why they gave up, but I must concluded that our photos are better than theirs... So, if you have 2000 good photos you will make a great book! And sorry, Pierre, I don't agree with you: this one of the great event about photography around the world. Not the biggest, but it's as great than it's more democratic. Aguinaldo A. Ramos <guina@domain.com.br> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 17:35:43 (EST) I believe this entire project to be an amazing experience for all that are involved. Personally, I have to applaud those that make all of this possible. I am sure the finished product will be unlike any other of its kind. Never before, in my day anyway, have so many different images, as seen through the eyes of so many different individuals, been recorded in one single book. The fact that all of these images are of the same exact day makes it all the more interesting. Not to mention that this particular day marked the passing of a millenium. It is not suprising to me that a certain participant does not see the beauty and originality of this project. There will always be that one person, we all know that. But, it is a drag that he must repeatedly attempt to rain on our parade. I see no reason for anyone to be so bitter, and if they must be, at least identify yourself. Regardless, I am truly honored to take part and thank everyone who makes the millenium photo project possible. Good luck to all! Sara <vixen6847@hotmail.com> Atlanta, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 19:29:17 (EST) Proctologists tell us every body has one; we have Pierre. A lot of creativity, daring and financial risk went into the concept of this book. It may or may not pay off. For we earstwhile photographers, our risk was only our egos. It was not our time nor the film. I doubt many of us did our shoot only because of the book. I planned to be in Beijing over New Years. I shot film because that is what I do.I bet few of us only shot because of the contest. So why get so uptight? If someone calls himself a looser, I bet he is always a looser. Poor Pierre. piece of film. ---=Hal When we touch one thing in the universe, we find it hitched to everything else. John Muir Hal Rosenthal <halsue@erols.com> Philadelphia, PA, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 20:04:15 (EST) Do I dare add a letter reiterating everything that's already been said (minus Pierre)? No, but I would like to say that hearing everyone coming together rather than falling apart over some frustrated Frenchman is quite refreshing. That doesn't happen every day and I commend you all. By the way, I don't know what you guys are talking about, I planned to retire with my winnings! ;) Bobbi Jo Beaver <jbc2000@usaf.org> Rapid City, SD, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 21:08:29 (EST) Wow, my first Internet post - there's never been a reason before... but I just want to add a MAJOR thank you to the organizers, and the organization, for this project. It has been a wonderful experience, and would have been so even if I had not been selected among the "2000". I realized I was an amateur, but enjoyed the opportunity to participate in something with my meagre amount of equipment, training, time and talent. There are virtually no other such opportunities available. Thanks once again. To those who did not make the cut, we all know how it feels - as they say, "been there, done that". And probably will again some time soon. For those who did not submit, I know how you feel - I almost did not as well, as personal plans got waylaid, and it was difficult to get it all together. For those who do not like the project - well, enough said - I do not share your lack of appreciation for what has been done. OK, if I don't make money out of this, so what! It has been an experience. Just as riding a roller coaster is an experience, but for this one, I really can proclaim to others that I particiated in a very significant event. Best wishes to all, I also look forward to the next part. Sorry, but stats are nice - it would have been wonderful to hear that I made the cut out of, say, 10,000 others, but a bit of realism is necessary - to just have made it this far, no matter how many, is an honour. Thanks once again. Doug Drouillard <dougd@intranet.ca> Ottawa, CA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 21:42:52 (EST) To everyone; Someday when I'm old and gray, sitting on the portico while contemplating the vicissitudes of life, this project will stand as one of it's finer moments. For me, shooting pictures - being in communion with the image - has always been a way of holding my soul in my hands. Being able to relive the instant again and again, and sharing what is nothing more than my interpertation of it is what moves me most. I am humbled to have been chosen as one of the 2000 photographers who will be remembered as a participant in one of the most inovative and global endevours ever imagined. Thank you all for making the experiance possible. Dante Staciokas <Pahilndr@bellsouth.net> Orlando, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 22:18:59 (EST) Greeting from the sleepy little berg of Port Orchard on the Kitsap Peninsula. I was planning on shooting the Seattle Celebration, but our "chicken little" Mayor was more worried about a terrorists attack that never happened. I believe Seattle was the only major city in the world that didn't celebrate with a huge party. So I headed off to the Seattle Center to take photos of the non event for United Press International, returned home, processed film and sent out over the wires for the rest of the world to see. It's interesting reading the comments of other photographers of trials and tribulations one might have gone through, how many rolls of film shot, and the fact of being in such a photographic undertaking. Well done....good job to the winners. I chose the annual Olalla Polar Bear jump, where these fools throw themselves off a bridge into the icy Olalla lagoon to wash away the old year and ring in the new. Just being there and photographing the event gave me goosebumps on top of my goosebumps to see those shuttering and cold souls. Maybe I'll shot it again next year..this time with my Nikonos and in dive gear. Anyways.........it's good being selected as one of the Millennium Photo Time Capsule Collection. Best the luck to all and thanks again for the memories! Cheers! Jim Bryant Jim Bryant <phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 23:24:01 (EST) I, for one, am very excited about having my photo in the time capsule! After all, I was on a waiting list at first; then was offered a chance to enter. I have wanted to enter other photo contests in the past, but backed out because I thought my ideas were not good enough. I also entered but did not place in another local contest. (I won 2nd place in an art show at our community college.) I sent in three entries knowing that at least I would have my name listed just for entering; now I will have a photo of mine posted on the web! Maybe other people's plans changed or they got cold feet. Certainly no one should be thought of as a looser here whether he/she entered and does not "win". Mr. Pierre, you should speak for yourself and stop using "we" especially when speaking about not becoming a photographer!! Anyone who likes taking pictures is considered a photographer! I just wish all of the judging would hurry and end; the suspense is "killer" (at least for me). Thank you crew!!! Renata <johnsonsr@oasisol.com> Fallon, USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 23:27:12 (EST) All I can say is: Thanks to the team for their efforts on this project. It has given me a year of excitement, anticipation, fun and dreams. I have been an amateur photographer for over 35 years. These opportunities don't come along very often in life. Take advantage of them when they do arise. Craig Gdog Gd <cmerri@juno.com> Hillsboro,OR., U.S.A. - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 23:47:13 (EST) Just a quick thank you from myself and all the staff for all the pleasant comments. It's great to see the discussion board nice and active again. Latest on the cover vote? Design #1 has 220 votes, Design #2 has 117 votes and there were 39 abstentions. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 01:03:00 (EST) Nice to see so many new people on the discussion board. Anyone coming to Jerusalem is welcome to visit and have a cuppa coffee and talk about photography, places to see here or what ever. I'll be visiting Winnipeg, Manitoba from the 17th to the 30th of April. Anyone in that area interested in meeting? I'm a Canadian, living and working in Jerusalem for the past 28 years as a photographer. Douglas Guthrie <guthrie45@yahoo.com> Jerusalem, Israel - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 03:47:12 (EST) First of all i would like to say a big hi to al the staff whom were attached to the Millenniumn Photo Contest it sure must have beena lot of time and effort to put so much into it to get it al going smoothly. For me this was my very first photographic entry and very happy to say prints were aceptable my 3 prints were two of the fireworks display above Hagley park on New years eve and the stage, i would also like to say HELLO to all other NEWZEALANDERS whom took part and also a big HI to all those around the globe. Perhaps we can become a HUGE happy family all with the same interest Enjoy the rest of the new year whereever you may be Regards from Tom from Christchurch Garden city of NewZealand Tom Roberts <tomroberts39@icqmail.com> Christchurch, NewZealand - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 04:12:08 (EST) Where is Pierre? Without him so it is boring. This man the French (may be), but swears as drunk Yankee (or sober Russian). May be it Alx him has thought up, for to warm up ours chat? Valentin <vale@rusfoto.com> Moscow, Russia - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 05:57:57 (EST) Finally got around to reading the messages posted by fellow Millennium photographers and I too was delighted to be represented in the 2000 selected for the time capsule. I note several fellow kiwis also have images chosen and will be interested to get the stats some time of total entries, countries represented etc. You guys have done a fantastic job. Congrats. Jack Sprosen <jackspros@xtra.co.nz> Auckland, New Zealand - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 06:31:21 (EST) Great to see so many people active on the discussion board. Hal I don't even know you and I love you. You make us LOL. PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 08:33:45 (EST) Well it's over and congratulations on the fellow photographers who made the book. Looking forwared to seeing it. Would like some imput on a get together in Las Vegas. Love to hear your comments on this subject. You can reach me by email or by phone: 800-351-7400 and just ask for me Howie Bell. Howie Bell <mrkexc@lvcm.com> Las Vegas, USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 11:10:21 (EST) Here I am again, on special request. I usually don't have much time to occupy myself with these kind of "discussions", but I will make a special effort. Yes, I am happy to see that this "discussion" forum is a lot livelier since I've first been here. Even though I haven't seen any critics of the "Project" yet. But I can live with the idea that they just don't come here because they didn't take part in the "Project" in the first place. That's a pity, because this is supposed to be a discussion forum, not a "Project"-praise shower. Is everybody around here really so over-excited about this Millennium thing? What was so special about it? Perhaps most of you were on an XTC trip that night and never got out of it? Oops sorry, I'm going too far again (I really do my best to control myself, Alx). What is so special about this whole "Project"? I can't believe it. OK, here you get a new Statement Of The Day: let's say that half of you cheated and didn't send a picture of the Millennium passing itself. A lot of the "Time Capsule Winners" have undoubtedly done that. That would be a shame, not? All these magical photos turn out to be false and fake. But hey, now you're going to say again that "it doesn't matter when the pictures are taken, it's the magic of all these fine photographers together who made all this possibe", and that I have to get out of here. I will, I will, but not yet. I still hope to read some criticism as opposed to the overall hallelujah atmosphere. As I said this place is a lot livelier now compared to the previous 3 or 5 pathetic comments a day. You should thank me Alx! You'll love in the end. Or are you all Mormons? Pierre Paris, France - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 11:42:44 (EST) I went quickly over the messages. I just want to say that bringing this moment to the attention of people is the intention of each indivdiual and their expression of that intention. I , for one , am not interested in photography. Photography is a tool and that tools purpose is to communicate and that communication is directly related to the person behind the camera, in this case. What is the purpose of this event, i.e. Millennium. To me , that moment represents another opportunity to wake up to MySelf. To my intention as a participating humanBeing walking on a living planet expressing something from my experience about my Journey, utilizing photography as a tool to express just that. Millennium 20000: is a moment of re-membering the human journey and re-establishing my commentment to my personal walk and responsibility. OR what am I REsponding to? ANd from where INside of me. From The Joy of being Alive? From the desire to be seen, heard or expressed too about myself, from fear and the need to prove something to myself? So yes, this compilation of images is representive of the human being and their consciousness, their awareness. ENjoy, Arthur Arthur Sawyers <utch@mindspring.com> Chapelhill, usa - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 11:59:10 (EST) I saw Howie's message "congratulations on the fellow photgraphers who made the book". Does this mean the notification of book winners has already gone out? Has anyone else received this? Duncan <duncan_jm@hotmail.com> St. John's, Canada - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 13:48:30 (EST) No message about the book winners has gone out. It is not expected for at least a couple of weeks. Wesley Young <wesley@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 16:51:15 (EST) Alx and everyone: 2 cents about friend Pierre and no more. Folks, the guy imitated Beavis & Butthead when he first posted here. That's a pretty good indicator to me that the guy is no more than a troll. Nerts to him. ...Now for the question; I didn't see a response, so my apologies if this has been answered, but. If you were one of 2000 winners, does that mean that ALL of your photos are in the capsule? Or just one? If it is just one, is there a way to find out WHICH one? I would like to notify the subjects of my pictures, but don't want to get anyone's hopes up if their picture ultimately wasn't selected. Thanks. Kim Wadsworth <nyge@pipeline.com> New York, USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 17:20:47 (EST) Dear Pierre, (I don't believe that you are a Frenchman (person) at all, due to your use of the North American jargon), Thanks for your presence on this discussion, your brute force is refreshing, if someone can read between the lines and dismisses your vitriolic overlay. Most probably you are right that 90% of us would not become a pro in this throat cutting photo business. And, so what. This book will have something refreshing due to some of our work. If only professionals would have made this book than the outcome would have been predictable. I am pretty sure that Alx and the others will not have a mediocre product come out of their hands. But your point of validity of the pictures is a good point. I was freezing my fingers, - and so on. - on an abundant factory parking lot for hours to get the lighting right. My principal would not let me cheat. So lets ask Alx, what do you plan to do to assure that the possible cheating will be nullified. Anything needs to be initiated beside the signing of the statement to assure authenticity of the taking of the photos? It would be a set back if some photo would turn out to be a cheat, wouldn't it? I can hear the "official critics"' chewing up your hard work Alx, if you don't cover this angle. Pierre, have a beer which will hopefully dilute your vitriolic edge and keep bringing up your point of views. Alx, thank you for your "thankless job" I am looking forward to see your work and our photos on the shelves. Attila the Magyar Attila <attila_the_Magyar@yahoo.com> mississauga, canada - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 17:55:41 (EST) First of all, Pierre, if we have to explain it to you, you just don't get it and never will. Sorry you are so angry. For everyone else, there are a few websites that may be of interest to you. These are geared toward professional photographers or anyone who wants to learn more about photographing. www.lightingmagic.com and www.professionalphotographyofamerica.com. If anyone else has knowledge of some interesting sites let us know. Have a great day. Pat PAT <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 19:37:32 (EST) Mr. Pierre, Your impertinence is equal only to your lack of understanding of what this project attempts to achieve. For a rare moment, allow yourself to look inside that dark little corner of your heart which disfigures your humanity, the part that says you do not love yourself enough to love others. Take a moment to be kind to yourself. Manage this, and the essense of maturity will be yours. Master it, and you gain a higher understanding of the world you so hate. I am less concerned with your mental incapabilities than I am with your inability to fullfill your dreams. In sad fact, I pity you. Someday, if you are fortunate enough, you will outgrow those self-loathing tendances. If you choose not to, the psuedo-intellectualizm of the countenance you now possess will utterly destroy you. Good luck in your search. Dante Staciokas <pahilndr@bellsouth.net> Orlando,Fl., USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 21:31:28 (EST) It is my understanding that we of the "2,000" need not be the greatest of photographers; all we have done is to record a slice of life from our own perspectives in our little corner of the world. Whether those images are "winners" or whether they are ordinary, they speak of the moment when we entered a new millennium. They are not meant to be a testament to the photographers' expertise. The book itself will represent the true talent among us and I hope the work chosen reflects the joy, the sorrow, the rich and poor, the great and small, the beautiful and the mundane of the world around us. I must give credit to those who had the vision, to Alx and the others, who have invested so much of their time, and pulled it all together. Thank you. Liz Liz <Lizlarrabe@aol.com> Venice, FL, USA - Thursday, March 23, 2000 at 23:17:50 (EST) Thanks Alx for the great work and for allowing us "amateurs" a chance to show our stuff. One question though, I don't understand the harm in releasing the stats for those of us who are curious. For those people who don't care about the stats, then just pass them by. I don't think that knowing the stats will diminish the way anyone feels about the Project. I also have noticed many people asking the same question over and over that I would like to know, how do we know which photo(s)was selected for the Time capsule? Michelle Milton, Canada - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 00:03:16 (EST) Michelle, in answer to your question (and sorry it has taken so long, there was another distraction there for a minute)... as it stands right now we are working to input descriptions (your captions along with key words) into our database for each and every photo. At the moment all we have in our database is 'Photo1', 'Photo2', 'Photo3'. When this work is completed and cross-checked, we can send out a mass e-mail which will detail which of your photo(s) made the 2000. With so many photographers to notify, the alternative of sending e-mails individually was simply unrealistic. Having the captions in the database will have other benefits no doubt in the future, but as you can appreciate, it is a time consuming and laborious process. It is also complicated by the fact that our publishers also need the pictures to choose for the book! Please bear with us. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 01:11:45 (EST) Pierre, if you are French, then that has done nothing but reinforce my opinions about the French: rude, crude, American-bad-mouthing sourpuss who should be thanking their lucky stars that there is even an America that saved their butts in WWII. Don't forget, you would probably be speeking German if it were not for us. If you are not French, then you are merely an imposter who is not brave enough to post their own name and back what they are saying. Please, Pierre, urinate in the wind somewhere else. We do not need your nastyness. Pollute a message board somewhere else hate and suffering is welcome. There is plenty of trash on the internet for your kind. Am I being too strong? Jim De Boer <gooberman@access1.net> El Cajon, USA - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 02:37:50 (EST) Thanks Jim for saving us from the Germans. If we can do anything for you (save you from the barbarian Canadians for instance, or convert you into a real nice guy), let us know. Alx, sorry to have distracted you for just one minute. Are the publishers printing 25O.OOO books? Do you know what you are saying or are you just daydreaming? Can I have my cheque now, I need some cash. Huhh huhuh huh. Dante, it is my strong impression that you are talking to yourself, although you pretend to hate me, for which I didn't gave anyone the slightiest reason. Pat, what exactly will I never get? The Magic of the Millennium? You could be right. Now for some statistics: everyone is a WINNER and EVERYONE is a "Time Capsule Winner" because not even 2000 people sent photos! And half of you sent photos of last year! Keep up the spirits and the excitement! Pierre Paris, France - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 03:39:13 (EST) Several new page updates and a slightly refreshed look for the Crew HQ. The vote has been a great success and you can now access a vote results page and transcript of everyone's comments, from the main Crew menu. Suggestions on the next voting topic please??? ;) Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> Project HQ, Toronto - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 05:24:28 (EST) I don't usually get annoyed by things and nor do I usually post messages on chat boards, but this Pierre fellow (and I don't for a second believe he's French) is a royal pain in the &#$%!. I can't work out what he's going on about. I suggest the next vote is how to get rid of him. Is that possible somehow Alx? He is obviously angry about something, or jealous or both. Playing his game for a second, what if there weren't 2000 photographers who took part? If 2000 out of 6000 who expressed an interest, actually took part and then went to the trouble of actually sending something in, that would be quite an achivement by any competition's standards. I know from personal experience. Perhaps Alx simply wanted to give a few of us the thrill of actually WINNING something for once. Perhaps he's playing his cards close to his chest for promotional reasons. Who knows??? If it turns out there are less than 2000 photographers, then that can only mean a bigger share for those of us who did believe in the project and a tighter knit family to boot. One that hopefully can exclude the likes of Pierre. Please stop ruining it for everybody and for heaven's sake have the balls to reveal your true identity. Or are you not man enough to do even that? There, I said it! Rosey Shapton <ros_hapton@freeserve.co.uk> Bath, England - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 06:46:07 (EST) Rosey, The best medicine for "Pierre" - to not pay on him attention. The dog bark - caravan goes (by own way). Valentin <vale@rusfoto.com> Moscow, Russia - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 07:38:44 (EST) Alx, Thanks for keeping us up to date. Being a part of the decision making is truly made this a community effort. Pat <greatphoto> Manchester, USA - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 08:24:17 (EST) Alx, Enough of this froggy Frenchmen, if that's who he really is. It's easy to find out where he's from, his true idenity and email provider. If you are using Explorer, click on his message, go into File and then click on properties. Go to Details and we all can find out who this zipperhead really is. But he sure makes for a lively discussion board. I vote to leave him be..........I find humor in his ramblings and in everyone else's posted comments. I can't or don't intend on even wasting my time trying to figure him out. But he seems like some jealous soul who didn't make the cut, therefore is trying to justify in his own mind that the project was a waste of time and someone, somewhere cheated. You know the saying....."He's just a legend, but in his own mind." He doesn't bother me...I know where I stand in the photographic world of ours as I've been working professionally three decades and making a good living in this shark infested porfession. I've met his kind along the sidelines too many times before on a wide variety of assignments found anywhere around the world. The creators of this project don't care if you are a professional or an amateur. What really matters to them is if those photos selected combine those elements of spontaneity and immediacy that say, "this is happening, this is real and those images will live and grow and become more meaningful in a historical perspective. To all those out there who never had a photo published and now have a chance to getting one into the book.......it's great feeling. When it happens, hold onto those memories as you'll never know what path in life you'll take. As Robert Frost once said in "The Road Not Taken" Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. When I got my first photo published I thought, "If someone will actually pay me to go out and take photos, then I've found my calling in life." Good luck to all in life........even you Pierre. Cheers....... Jim Jim Bryant <phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 10:30:21 (EST) Nicely put Jim! Your encouraging words are very inspirational. As for Pierre, he definitely does sound made up...he probably doesn't exist at all. It's almost as if two or more people are writing these messages under this "Pierre" character. From "Pierre's" first post until now, his writing style is extremely different. I agree with Rosey, I think we should vote on getting rid of him. By the way, maybe I missed this one - was Pierre a part of this project? Did he actually sign up with an authentic email address? Alx, is it possible to check the mailing list...is there really a Pierre? If not, if he never really was part of the project then block him and don't let him post a message on this forum!;) Victoria <vvancek@lightspeed.bc.ca> Pitt Meadows, Canada - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 15:50:44 (EST) I must say I am shocked at the behavior that goes on in this chat room! I am very disappointed at the way TMPP is handling this situation. Why would you leave a message on that contains racial hatred to certain groups and religion? People should understand that by giving someone attention, you are giving that person what he wants! "I can't afford to hate anyone, I'm a photographer." From the Philadelphia Story. x - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 20:47:42 (EST) Pierre is not worthy of comment. I just want to thank the people who are behind this whole thing. It has been such fun to read comments from around the world. My photos sent in were nothing spectacular as my celebration was a quiet one, but being a part of the project has nevertheless been a privilege. I did make the first cut and I am proud of that. Also extremely anxious to see all of the photos from pros and amateurs around the world. Photography has been my profession for close to 20 years. I have never made a fortune from my work, but I have developed pride and self confidence because of it. Great respect for you Alx, for your patience and persistence! Thanks again. Becky Cate <rlcate@mwci.com> Dubuque, USA - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 21:07:57 (EST) Alx, Best of luck to all the hard-working Millennium crew. I await further news, anxiously, about my entry. I'm looking forward to receiving a book, and to be quite honest, I would have purchased a book, whatever the cost, even if none of my photos had been chosen, for the 'time capsule' or further consideration. Looking forward to release... April April Warn <apeyd@hotmail.com> Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia - Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 07:29:15 (EST) Kia Ora folks I was absolutely gobsmacked to learn that my work was to be among those chosen for the Time Capsule. Certainly, Dec 31 and 1 Jan was a truly memorable occasion in my newly-adopted country. I shall certainly look forward to receiving the book as it will capture an event not to be repeated for a further one thousand years. Congratulations to all my fellow photographers. JOhn Winters, Auckland john winters <blakelands@xtra.co.nz> Auckland, New Zealand - Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 19:33:34 (EST) Having posted my origina lessmage before reading the comments, I would like to add my comments to others who have parised Alx and Co for the wonderful job they have done and are doing. It is a privilege to be included among the sane sensible photographers who are delighted, like I am, to be involved in such a project. I would like to feel that 99% of the photographers who took part did it in the spirit in which it was intended. John Winters Auckland, New Zealand john winters <blakelands@xtra.co.nz> Auckland, New Zealand - Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 19:48:21 (EST) Hello everyone, Just wondering what were some of the different photos that were shot ? How did you decide what to shoot? I decided to first shoot on a friend's ranch and show what he was doing to get ready for the new year( which consisted of building a fire to cook a special dutch oven treat, riding his horse, reading Zane Grey, and basically kicking back and ringing in the new year by doing the kind of things that he loved). I shot in b&w with t-max 100 and then tea dyed and hand colored it. The next shot I took was in downtown Boise, Idaho as they were shooting off fireworks at 12:00 over the state capitol ( I stood in front of the sign that they lighted up with " Boise 2000" and caught the sign and the people in front silhouetted as they raised their arms in excitement. I shot Velvia and used my tripod and shot , shot , shot!!! Hoping to catch the right moment as everything fell together. What did everyone else out there shoot? Take care. Dianne <countrydreams@execu.net> Middleton,Idaho, u.s.a. - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 01:22:37 (EST) What's with Pierre...who really cares if the whole project has 10,000 entries or 2000 entries? Who cares if anyone makes any money out of it? The project has been fun to be part of to this point. I never joined for the money or the fame or to have a photo voted as a winner, I entered for fun and even if I am being ripped off, which I don't believe I am, I don't care. But poor old Pierre he really has got some personal problems to deal with...but then again he is a Frenchman. Glenn <glennm@ruralnet.net.au> Dareton, Vic Australia - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 06:20:50 (EST) First off, I apologize for the long posting I am making as I know most people like the shorter posts. OK, now for my 2 cents on Pierre. I copied all of your postings so I could read them without being distracted by the other posts. First you say that MPP is an American project. It's not. It's based in Canada. You then say that anyone who is an American is a loser. Guess what, There is North America and South America. Which country do you mean? People from Europe refer to us as Yanks or Yankees. Next you said that we are all winners. Got any proof for that statement? They get it all? Proof? Next you call everyone who posts to the forum mindless. Kinda hard to take a picture, much less breathe without a mind. You also say that you want to discuss, not email. I feel that you do not give out your email because of the the email you would receive. Which leads to the fact that we are not all anonymous. Take a look at the discussion forum and you will see email addresses. The MPP did not make us think that we are all great photographers. No we are not all great photographers, we just happened to submit photos that met the criteria for what is to be published. This is the largest "photojournalistic" event in the world so far. You were playing on a definition that just because thousands of people submit to contest on the web that that is a photojournalistic event and it is not. Most of us were not on drugs that night. So now we are mindless Mormon dope heads, according to you. You also state that Dante has no reason to hate you. I think I just showed plenty of reason. Now I ask you Pierre that if you are going to post or respond to posts on this forum you leave the hate speech out and you think about what you want to say before you submit it. Alx, if in fact so of Pierre's posts have been removed, please put them back up. We should give Pierre a chance to justify all of us allowing him to continue to post by watching his next couple of posts. If he continues they way he has been, then I would agree to remove him even though it goes against the First Amendment. Chris <cobrakai@ammerman.net> Wolfe City, United States of America - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 10:34:22 (EST) Hello Everyone! I haven’t posted in awhile but I have a story to tell. Like 99% of you I am an amateur photographer who sometimes daydreams of going pro. Of the three slides I sent into the project only one required a model release. On the entry form I acknowledged I had a release. I didn’t, but I knew I could get one if needed. Imagine my surprise when I got the email that one or more photos had been selected. Now I needed the model release. The photo was of a local theater group rehearsing a play written just for the New Year’s Eve performance. I had a couple of 8X10 prints made of the slide and went by to get the release signed. When they looked at the photo they got very excited and asked if I would be interested I doing a shoot to promote their current production. The group travels the eastern United States and Canada and will use the photos to promote the group in the cities they plan to visit. I just spent yesterday with the group shooting several rolls of film and next week we will sit down to select slides to be printed. Thanks Alx and crew, this may be the spark I was looking for. Oh, and Pierre, or whoever you are, life is what you make of it. John Rupe <jrupe2@tampabay.rr.com> Tampa, Fl., U.S.A. - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 10:36:56 (EST) Pierre, did one of your pictures get chosen? Did you participate in the MPP at all? If your picture was not chosen, are just mad and hateful to those of us who did have their picture chosen? Just curious. Chris <cobrakai@ammerman.net> Wolfe City, United States of America - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 10:48:56 (EST) Hello to All, Just like the rest of you I am very excited to be in the 2000 picked for the time capsule and am eagerly awaiting the results of the final picks. The experience I had putting this all together,( getting 22 people together for a vacation in the British Virgin Islands), and then getting them all in one spot at the same time to be photographed was much more difficult than I could have imagined. But needless to say well worth the memories. These were all people I have known for many years including my best friend of almost 45 years. The stress of the organization, almost losing my Nikon in the water and the sunburn were greatly outweighed by the good times we all had. It is too bad that as we get older we start to lose touch with good people that are in our lives and I am glad that I had this opportunity to have this vacation with my good people. Thanks to Alx and the rest of the staff for a job well done and for the chance to even be involved in this world wide community of "good people," except for Pierre. Get over it. Rik Cass Erie, Pa. Rik Cass <rcass54576@aol.com> Erie,Pa., U.S.A. - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 12:07:35 (EST) The Project producers should publish the number, or even the name if possible, of photographers who has participated of the conquest, even those who didn't won. So that would shut Pierre's big, envy, incoherent mouth. Vitor Hugo Moreau <moreau@ism.com.br> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 15:10:22 (EST) Hi, Alx and all staff, I think don't exist nothing at Internet like your project, we photographers amateurs and professionals need this kind of initiative. We can do whith you a great assotiation in the world, democratic and creative. Thank You. Achutti. Luiz Achutti <lachutti@aol.com> Paris, France - Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 18:03:14 (EST) I want to congratulate John Rupe on his success with the theater group photograph commission. I think it is wonderful that by participating in the MPP other photographic opportunities have presented themselves to him. I hope this will happen to others as well. In response to Dianne's question about what everyone else photographed...To begin...I happened across the MPP site when looking for photo galleries and artists in Sept/Oct. I found the idea intriguing, so I tried to sign up, but all of the USA spaces were full. So, I figured it couldn't hurt to sign up to be on the waiting list. I didn't expect to be taken off the waiting list and asked to participate. To my surprise, I was sent an e-mail and found out there was an opening. This was only a few days before Christmas. I had already decided to go to Mass for New Year's Eve before being asked to participate. I figured---why change my plans. So, I proceded to get permission from our parish priest to photograph the Mass. The three slides I sent in are of different aspects of a Roman Catholic Mass held on the feast of Mary Mother of God. I am interested to see and hear about other images. Shawna Manning <shawnaturtle@yahoo.com> College Station, USA - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 17:37:57 (EST) GREAT JOB, Alx, and everyone involved. It was, indeed, a pleasure to be included in such a momentous undertaking. I can hardly wait for the book. Looking forward to hearing more about who's photos will make the book as well as the time capsule. Thanks again. Dr. J Dr. J Charles <drjcharles@netos.com> Seattle, USA - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 19:48:53 (EST) Congratulations John. Great job. It is nice to see that other photographers have reaped the benefits of this project on a completely different level. Because of the project we were able to photograph the "BIG DIG" in Boston. I have also had the opportunity to photography at the local hospital because of the shoot we did there. One thing leads to another and progresses to our next adventure. Anyone else got a success story ????? Pat Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 20:23:07 (EST) CONGRATULATIONS JOHN !!!!! I wish you all the best. I beleive this is the third or fourth advancement from the project I've heard about. For many of us, (including myself), the project has given us inspiration and confidence. For myself, I had lost all that when I became ill with severe depression. On the train ride to Times Square in NY City, I was ready to get off the train before it made it's third stop. About 12 miles away from home. I stuck it out and made it to the Time Capsule. That was the spark I needed to re-ignite my love of photography. I've even start my own web page which incorporates The MPP heavily. It's like my life has started all over. I am now planning to attend photography and computer graphics classes in college starting in the summer. Thanks to Alx & Staff for giving me back a life to enjoy again !!!!! Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic, NY, USA - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 00:12:33 (EST) Tom, Your message broke my heart and inspired me at the same time. I know how depression is ... I 've been there and it's so nice to have a light at the end of the tunnel to strive for. Remember how much you love photography and just absorb your self in it when you are feeling low. It might sound corny but my favorite thing to do when I'm down is to walk around downtown in Boise ( not a very big place but full of interesting people) and just absorb it ... the sounds ... the smells...the people... and photograph what you feel. When I first start out I can tell my mood is very dark... capturing the sad side of life but then as I progress it seems to show a lighter side of life and my spirit comes away much lighter than before. Just remember be very very proud of your self for getting this far in the project and don't forget to do what makes YOU happy. Please take care .Peace........ Dianne <countrydreams@execu.net> Middleotn,Idaho, u.s.a. - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 01:02:13 (EST) Where is Pierre? Where is Pierre? We want him back! Pierre Elitaire Paris, Texas - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 06:11:05 (EST) Piere, We have Tom, Dianne, Dr.J, Shawna, Luiz, Vitor, Rik, Chris, John T., Glenn, John W., April, Becky, Victoria, Jim B., Valentin, Rosey, Jim D., Michelle, Liz, Dante, Attila, Kim, Duncan, Arthur, Tom R., Jack, Howie, Hal, Douglas, Craig, Renata, Doug, Bobby Jo, Sara, Daniel, Aguinaldo, Steve, Brent, Dick, LaDonna, Kim, Leo, Eleonora, Christine, Barbara, Peter, Rebecca, Tom M., Martha just to name a few. I'd much rather hear from these people. Anyone else with a success story ???? Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, , USA - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 15:48:18 (EST) Hi everyone. Lovely to hear all the success stories. Remember, if you hear of any magazines, websites or other outlets currently looking for photographic submissions, do pass them on to us, so we can let everyone else know. Alx Klive <alx@millenniumphoto.com> WMC, Miami, - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 19:07:35 (EST) To Pierre Elitaire from Paris, Texas: Kinda funny I saw where you are from. One of the pictures I submitted was of me proposing to my bride to be at one of the Fire Stations in Paris. She can always say she was proposed to in Paris. Even if it was Paris, Texas. Chris <cobrakai@ammerman.net> Wolfe City, United States of America - Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 23:57:25 (EST) I, for one, do not miss Pierre. I am like a lot of the ones on this board. I want to here the success stories. Life if full enough of bad news, why have it here? I really don't know if I have a success story or not, but I am getting my foot in the door, very slowly. I love photography, so it really doesn't matter very much how much money I may or may not make, as long as I strive to take the very best pictures each and every time I snap the shutter. I am using an old Canon AE1 Program, that I acquired when I got my first divorce(I got it from my ex...). So, in a way, it was like a gift that I felt compelled to make the best of. I would like to be professional some day, but if I'm not, I'll still be happy to have been involved in this project. When I'm older and greyer, I'll still remember the thrill of participating in a project that people all over the world were participating in at the same time! Well, I have run on a bit longer that I had anicipated doing...Have a good day all! LaDonna LaDonna <powelllm@vlasic.com> Winslow, usa - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 00:15:28 (EST) sorry, but this is a question... hello! My name is Samuel, and I am of the photografhers that had my pictiure inclued in the Millennium Photo Capsule Collection. After reading a newspaper here from Brazil, I knew that the photographers would received a help (in money ) for the picture sended. I would here to receive a answer about this. In the last e-mail that I recive about my classification in the project for the book colection, there was a part that I not understand. I have to choose one picture to the book ? Please, send me more details. Thanks samuel h. berger <samuca79@hotmail.com> curitiba, brasil - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 05:22:44 (EST) Hi I'm thrilled about it all, especially taking the pictures, as it involved the organisation I am with - which is the sunderland Voluntary Life Brigade (coastal Search and Cliff Rescue). Which has its own web site - http://sunderlandvlb.freeserve.co.uk(I think). Cant wait to see the book, Hurry up its killing me. Sonia spence <sonia_spence@hotmail.com> Sunderland, England - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 06:32:14 (EST) PHOTO CONTEST!!! United Nations Environment Program International Photographic Competition on the Environment details: open to all photographers-amateur, professional, or student gold prize-$20,000 silver prize-$10,000 bronze-$5,000 theme-focus on your world entry deadline-April 30, 2000 go to www.unep-photo.com for entry form This sounds like a good oppurtunity, good luck Sara <vixen6847@hotmail.om> Atlanta, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 10:32:53 (EST) I see Samuel mentioned that he got notification about the book. Are they out yet? I am dying here to know. Patience is not my long suit. :-) Sandra <FBTdra9@aol.com> Seattle, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 10:53:24 (EST) THANK YOU Sara for the info on the contest. I have been swamped with numerous other activities (ie selling my house) so I haven't had much of a change to search out contests, etc. Thank you for passing on the info. I am interested in hearing what other people photographed for the MPP. I wish more than one photo a week was posted on the site.....Anyway, what did all of you shoot? Shawna Manning <shawnaturtle@yahoo.com> College Station, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 11:06:12 (EST) Great news from here, I was at a party on Sunday and was introduced to a woman who arranges shows in the area. I told her about the MPP and my vacation and said she would like to see some of my work. Well to make a long story short we are now working on a small show at a gallery for late this summer. I want to thank again, Alx and the crew for a good job and for inspiring me to get back to photography in a serious way. Rik Cass Rik Cass <rcass54576@aol.com> Erie,PA., U.S.A. - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 12:28:41 (EST) The information flying around in this discussion forum is incredible ... it is really nice to feel part of such a group. Perhaps Alx and the MPP will pay the costs for a party where we can all get together in person ... Seriously, if it were possible to somehow keep this "group feeling' alive, expecially after all of the photos are viewable, it would be great. Doug <dougd@intranet.ca> Orleans, CA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 13:05:21 (EST) I from a very small town. It would be great for Allegan to be know internationally. My 1st image was a double exposure. I had to get creative since my firework shot where boring. I took a color neg. of fireworks and a B/W neg. of clydesdales pulling a sleigh ride, put them together and had it printed on color paper. My 2nd image was a B/W shot taken during a catholic candlelight mass. Its a low angle shot from the back of the church, prist holding up the host. My 3rd B/W image was of my 3 kids celebrating at our bar in my home. I'm glad I stayed in my small town instead of going to a large city. As we wait....Good Luck to all. Diane Sumner <dsumner@datawise.net> Allegan, MI, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 14:53:31 (EST) Just a few things to mention. First of all; CONGRATS TO RIK!!!! 2- To Dianne from Idaho - I'm so happy that everything worked out for you. 3- Shawna- I shot in NY City- Times Square. 4-Doug- You had mentioned about the group still feeling alive after all is done. I feel that everyone here has so much in common. The MPP alumni will continue to grow and grow closer. I was thinking about a re-union next year. Maybe Alx could work on that... Only kidding Alx..lol... As far as people asking to see others photos, I have totally redone my website (www.TDPhoto.homestead.com). It is not complete, but the MILLENNIUM 2000 page has many of my shots. I have also added other photographers links. So if anyone has their own site, please list it and I will add a link to it on my site. Well, enough said... Good luck all. PS: Pat -- Patience ....lol Tom <KC2ABP@aol.com> Mastic, NY, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 23:03:06 (EST) In response to where I shot pictures..... I actually had no idea that I was taking pics for a reason..I had been on the waiting list and when I was able to check my e-mail, it was already January. Luckily I brought my camera with me. A group of close friends and myself took a roadtrip to attend the New Year Phish Festival held at the Big Cypress Seminole Indian Reservation (which is located in the everglades of southern Florida). The festival was such a blast, but I really wish I had checked my e-mail before I left. The press pass could have done me some good. Oh well, I got some interesting photos anyway. And I had the time o Sara <vixen6847@hotmail.com> Atlanta, USA - Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 23:49:27 (EST) Here goes.... for all you out there that care to know about success stories of individual involved in the shoot. My lfie has been one sucess story after another. But what really counts....being sucessful or following that dream and the love for the job? So you all now want to become professional photographers????? There are many roads that lead to photography. It was once said that every man is entitled to his favorite brand of insanity. Mine is photojournalism. After being in the craft for three decades, I still get excited by a great photograph or a moving photographic essay. "Aha! I'll tell you what it is. It is like falling in Love." My affair with photojournalism has oftentested my marriage, bringing worry, pain or disappointment.But like my love affair with my wife, photojournalism has been one of my great passions, and has made life worthwhile.I am convinced that in the long run that passion of taking pictures is probably the most necessary ingredient that will produce a successful photojournalist. Only passion can provide the drive to keep you shooting effectively towards the end of an exhausting day. It is passion that forces you to wade a muddy ditch with cameras held high overhead, hoping the angle will be better from other side. And when the thrill of being published subsides, and the realization sets in that the big bucks are in advertising, it is only passion that can cushion the letdown. And the knowledge that somehow, some way, you are taking pictures that matter. Now......Atittle bit about myself,I've been shooting for papers since I was 18...a teenager living in Japan. My dad was in the Army stationed in Japan from 1967 to 1972. I grew up with kids who's fathers worked as photographers and reporters at Pacific Stars & Stripes in Tokyo. Since I was in the school's camera club I got to work in the paper's photo lab printing and processing then later on I was lucky enough to go out on assignments and learn one end of the camera from another. Just to give you a time caspule of the past 30 years here goes. After departing Japan in 72 I joined the Navy in 73 as a Journalist and was sent to attend the Navy Photojournalism Program at the Newhouse School of Public Communication at Syracuse University. After graduating I received orders to CINCPACFLT Headquarters in Hawaii where I met my future wife, Amy, who was also in the Navy, We married in 1980 and I was sent to the Navy's CAMPUS magazine as an associate editor/photojournalist at Pensacola, Florida, where I traveled around the United States writing and photographing stories about Naval Education and Training. There I was the Navy's Top photojournalist two years in a row winning the Department of Defenses Thomas Jeffferson Awards for Photojournalism and Special Projects. I got out in 1983 and was hired as a staff photographer at the Florida Times Union in Jacksonville. Where I was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize in 84.(it's the black & white intro page to my news selection on my website) Hit the big time and started freelancing for most of the major newspapers and magazines such as Time and Newsweek. In 84 Amy got orders back to Japan and we headed off to Northern Japan where I freelanced for both Pacific Stars and Stripes and Gamma Liaison (a New York based photo agency) where I went on assignments  to the Pacific Rim countries, Southeast Aisa and Japan. In 1987 we headed back to Pensacola, Florida were I first freelanced and then landed a job as Chief Photographer for the NW Daily News at Ft. Walton Beach. I also played with my son Trevor at the beaches. In 1990 we departed Pensacola headed to the Azores where my daughter Julia was born in October. There I shot National Geographic style assignments for Travel magazines until in 92 we transfered again, this time going to Panama where our last son, Colin was born in 93 in Panama City. That now makes them 13, 9 and 6. So in addition to freelancing I was also was a Mr Mom from 1990 to 1996. Most of my childrem have been to bullfights in the Azores to the rain forest of Panama. Lucky them.....to have such an experience in their earily years. Occassionally, I still take them with me on assignments. But with them growing up and having friends and other interest I mostly go solo now. We moved to Washigton State from California in December 95 and by February 96 I got a job with a twice-weekly, The Port Orchard Independent. It's own by Sound Publishing, the largest owner of community papers on the West Coast. We ahve 17 papers stretching from the San Juan Islands to Tacoma and Federal Way. Amy retired from the Navy two years ago and stayed home with the kids until Colin started school fulltime at First grade. She attended Olympic College and  earned her associates in December. This week she started attending Evergreen State near Olympia and earn her B.A. in Math and Computer Science. She wants teach secondary education, imagine that, only work 180 days a year and get paid fulltime for parttime work. As for me....I'm always in a state of revolving....I'm the chief photographer for Sound Publishing. I'm mainly a photographer, but write some news, feature or sports stories if a reporter isn't available. Most of the time, when I want to work on a project..I'll photograph, write and then design the page myself. There's no more darkroom work........I get the film processed at a local one hour lab, then scan it into the computer...everything's done digital. No messy, smelly chemicals and my darkroom is either the computer screen at work or home. Hopefully  I'll get a negative/slide scanner this year for my birthday in June. Competition I've done really well winning 26 Washington Press Awards in three years. Still have that love for photography and never outgrow it. For the last ten years Amy's been trying to get me to grow up and become responsible so recently I applied for a Picture Editing job with the Tacoma News Tribune, a 180,000 circulation daily paper about 38 miles from Port Orchard. But I didn't get the job...they said I was too good of a shooter and hired someone from Montana. So I applied for the same time of position at the Seattle Times. Again...they said I was too good a shooter and was afraid I'd become professionally frustrated sitting behind a computer and editing someone elses work. Basically...both papers wanted someone who didn't have a desire to shoot anymore. Last shooters they hired for the Picture Editing job, when a staff photo position came open, applied and were hired from within. I thought it might have been something to do about my age, experience, race or sex (something that most of us have to put up in this day and age), but I was wrong......First time I've even been told I didn't get a job because I was too damn good a shooter. I feel at times this present job just isn't challenging enough............community journalism. We cover the mundane.....which even the SUN, local Bremerton paper would never think to cover. To bring fun and a challenge back into the job...I've reverted back to using four of my old, mechanical F-1's that I purchased in the middle 70's. Saving the shutters on my F1-N's and T-90 for sports. Now on most assignments I carry one with a 20mm, another with a 35mm, still another with a 135mm and last one with a 300mm. I feel like that crazy photographer Dennis Hopper from the movie "Apocalypse Now". But I now depend on hand-eye coordination and that split second timing.  It's become an exercise in learning and thinking again instead of relying on the all automatic cameras. Any questions on how to get into this shark infested business? You need equipment........the computers....scanners, (all costing 40 to 50K) business and photography market knowledge...and most of all experience. The cold fact is....your chances of being hired to freelance for a magazine are pretty much nill unless you have worked for them before. Most of the magazines around the world already have a datebase of photographers they already rely on. My suggestion to all those who are interested in this line of work go our and purchase the Photographer's Market guide. That reference book will give you insight on how and where to get published and submission guidelines from stock agencies to magazines. Take care and keep in touch. Feel free to contact me for advice and survival. Jim Bryant jbryant@portorchardindependent.com Phojo@0z.net www.oz.net/~phojo 4440 Marlyce CT. SE Port Orchard, WA. 98366 360-874-9132 - Home 360-874-9478 - Home 360-876-4414 - Work 360-731-3132 - Cellphone Here's my resume. Jim Bryant 4440 Marlyce CT SE Port Orchard, WA. 98366 360-874-9132 Professional Objectives -- Assignment in photography, picture editing, image scanning, graphic design and layout of a magazine or newspaper. February 1996-Present -- Senior photographer for Sound Publishing's Port Orchard Independent. Cover a variety of assignments ranging from news, sports, and feature to producing single and multiple page photofeatures. Responsible for planning long and short term photographic projects, writing, editing, photography and design of photofeatures. Adobe Photoshop 5.0, Quark Express and Adobe Page Maker, Digital camera and digital transmitting of photos via laptop experienced. Expert troubleshooter on both PC and Macintosh computers and systems hardware and software. Web site page building, HMTL and Java Script experienced. Plans annual photographic budget and serves as photo coach to the company's six photographers. January 1984 to Present -- Freelance photographer specializing in Corporate, Documentary, Editorial, Scenic, Sports and Travel Photography. Worldwide location assignments have taken me to over 25 countries from South Pacific Countries to Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea, Western Pacific Rim countries, Thailand, Palau, Vietnam to Portugal's Azores Islands photographing for magazines and newspapers. Internationally published and select stock available through Gamma Liaison International. Clients include: PhotoMedia Magazine, Insight Magazine. Tokyo Journal, EarthTreks, Times, Newsweek, Nation's Magazine, New York Times, Washington Post, Orlando Sentinel, Tampa Tribune, Baltimore Sun and San Francisco Chronicle. Presently works as UPI stringer in the Seattle area covering the WTO, Seattle Seahawks, Sonics and Mariners. June 1987 to January 1989 -- Chief Photographer for a Freedom owned, 55,000 daily circulation newspaper, N.W. Florida Daily News, P.O. Box 2949, Ft. Walton Beach, Fl. 32549. Planned daily photo departments shooting assignments ranging from spot news, general news, sports, feature, food and fashion illustrations to producing a weekly picture page. Traveled statewide covering Florida college and professional sporting events. Managed three person staff, planned yearly photographic supply and equipment budgets, worked with production personnel to ensure daily quality control of photographic images and designed picture pages. July 1983 to August 1984 -- Staff photographer, Florida Times-Union, One Riverside Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl. 32231. General assignment photographer: covered a variety of shooting assignments ranging from Spot, sports, general news, features, food and fashion to producing in-depth photofeatures. Traveled statewide covering Florida College and professional sports. Education -- Attended two-day Adobe Photoshop course in Tacoma 1999. Received B.S. in Asian Studies from University of Maryland in 1987. Attended 33rd annual University of Missouri's week-long photojournalism workshop in 1981. Recipient of U.S. Navy year-long scholarship to study graduate level photojournalism training at S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications, Syracuse University from 1977 to 1978. Received Associates Degree from Monterey Peninsula College in 1977. Professional organizations  -- Member American Society of Media Photographers and National Press Photographers Association. Book projects --  "A Day in the Life of Japan" 1985 and ASMP's "10,000 Eyes" 1991 Exhibitions: New York City's International Center of Photography's permanent collection 10,000 Eyes Exhibition, and worldwide traveling exhibition. Awards and Honors 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Portrait 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Spot News 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 1st Place - Feature 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Feature 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Feature 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 1st Place - Sports 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Spot News - Color 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Spot News - Color 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Scenic - Color 1999 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Feature - Color 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 1st Place - Portrait 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 1st Place - Pictorial 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Feature 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Feature 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Scenic - Color 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Spot News - Color 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Feature - Color 1998 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Feature - Color 1997 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 1st Place - Pictorial 1997 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Pictorial 1997 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Sports 1997 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 2nd Place - Portrait 1997 Washington Newspaper Publishers Association 3rd Place - Picture Story 1990 Chief of Naval Information Merit Awards 2nd Place - Photojournalism 1990 Chief of Naval Information Merit Awards 2nd Place - Photography' 1983 Pulitzer Prize Nominee General New Category 1983 Florida Society Newspaper Editor Awards 1st Place - News 1983 Florida Society Newspaper Editor Awards 3rd Place - Feature 1983 Editor Publisher Workshop EDDI Awards Special Achievement - Writing 1983 Editor Publisher Workshop EDDI Awards HM - Photojournalism 1983 Chief of Naval Information Merit Awards 3rd Place Photojournalism 1982 Military Photographer of the Year Awards 1st Place - Military Feature 1982 Military Photographer of the Year Awards 3rd Place - Pictorial 1982 Military Photographer of the Year Awards HM - Non-Military Feature 1982 DOD Thomas Jefferson Awards 1st Place - Special Achievement 1982 Chief of Naval Information Awards 1st Place - Special Achievement 1981 Military Photographer of the Year Awards 2nd Place - Non-Military Picture Story 1981 Military Photographer of the Year Awards 2nd Place - News 1981 DOD Thomas Jefferson Awards 1st Place - Photojournalism 1981 Chief of Naval Information Awards 1st Place - Photojournalism 1979 Military Photographer of the Year Awards HM - Military Feature Personal Born, 18 June 1952. Married and have three children. Excellent health. Hobbies include:SCUBA Diving, mountain bike riding, music and reading. Jim Bryant <phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 10:12:00 (EST) Congratulations Jim on all your success. You remind me of the saying "Life is not a dress rehearsel." Pat Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 11:21:41 (EST) So you want to be a photographer? Consider it carefully, and reckon the realities. You have to know more and work harder to earn less than in many other professions you might consider. Often you will work under pressure to deliver despite personal privation: minimal sleep, fifteen hour between meals, and two days between bed. You need the strength of a packhorse to carry around the equipment: resourcefulness, ingenuity and adaptability to solve assignment logistics; and inventiveness and the ability to capture the photos that sell in today's marketplace. You have to enjoy being by yourself if you are to cope with the long hours surrounded by strangers in remote places. Engagement, compassion and intensity are the prerequisites. In short....photography is no place for the airheads, dilettantes and those in search of cheap thrills. Still want to be a professional photographer??????/ As you contemplate your future as one, it might be well to remove yourself to a quiet thinking corner and evaluate the personal pluses and minuses you would bring to this career. Here's 10 questions to ask yourself 1. What do you expect to gain from being a photographer?- Money, fame, glamour, ego satisfaction? 2. Are you an educated person? in the Arts, sciences, literature, music, sports, economics, sociology, psychology and above all people. 3. Are you a photographically educated person? You must have the necessary equipment, camera bodies, lenses, lighting equipment and must be technically capable to produce quality work. 4. Are you a perceptive photographer? The mind, spirit, heart and emotions have to be engaged. IT goes beyond technique, craftsmanship and creativity. Perceptive photographers don't take shallow photographs. 5. Do you have endless energy? 6. Are you willing to be bookkeeper, secretary, business manager, publicists and salesperson? 7. Are you willing to give up your personal life? 8. Are visually literate? 9. Do you believe in yourself? 10. Do you love the work? I think one book that will help most of you out in understanding the in's and out's of this profession will be the current books entitled "Photographer's Market" and "Writer's Market'. Both of those will provide you with background and submission info to submit stories and photos to stock agencies, and various magazines. Good luck to everyone who has a desire to making it in photography. Remember......."What sacrifices you put into it will be the rewards you'll receive." Jim Jim Bryant <Phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 11:52:19 (EST) Jim, you certainly provide a realistic "picture" of life as a photographer. But look at what you have accomplished. The wonderful places you have visited, the opportunities to meet people in different places most of us dream about. Besides the fact, you have done exactly what you loved. How many people get to get up each day and do exactly what they love??? I say, if you want to be a photographer, then go for it. Go to school, read everything you can get your hands on, study with a photographer, but most importantly, just go do it. You are right not a lot of people make big money at this profession, but some do. Besides, when we're old and gray will we care how much money we have. I will care about the family I have loved, people I have met, friendships I have cultivated, places I have traveled, all the memories I photographed. Last week a close friend passed away. The family decided to celebrate her life and at the funeral parlor they displayed "Portraits of her life." What a wonderful tribute. As photographers, profession or not, we capture moments. You've got to love it !!!! Pat <greatimpressionsphoto@mediaone.net> Manchester, NH, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 13:47:41 (EST) Thank you Jim for opening the discussion board for me to express my feelings about photography. When I was in high school I would watch the class photographer walk around with his camera equipment and I would think "now that's what I want to do". He went everywhere free of restrictions. He was his own boss. Since I was born independent :-) it seemed to be the perfect profession for me! I then took an art class to begin the process. In that class I was repeatedly told the way I was expressing my art was "wrong". I would ask the teacher, "how can a person's art and vision be wrong". Thus, I never took another class again! I am a self-taught photographer and very proud of it. I started slow with a roll of film and a used Nikon camera which a friend gave to me. Being an emotional person, I began shooting the way I felt. I did not put pressure on myself to be perfectly technical in the beginning. The technical side just grew as I grew. The more I wanted to express my feelings through the lens the more I wanted to know the technical side to make the photograph "sing". There are many open paths in photography. Each person has their successes. A friend recently came to me in need. She had just begun the journey of photography and was ready to quit! She wanted me to give her lessons on photography. I told her that I didn't know how to teach photography. Then after awhile I realized what she needed. In all the her classes, the tecnical and competion and demand for equipment, she had lost her passion and her heart to be a photographer. So we went out for an afternoon and I had her just shoot from her soul. She cried and laughed and had the best time. Last week she shot a cover of a magazine!... There was a time that I thought about photojournalism, but quickly knew it wasn't for me. Portraits: celebrities, children, pets, the human body and making coffee table books is my passion. To capture the light of the soul, is my focus. To leave the best of me behind in my photographs and my books is what drives me to be all that I can be. To have a very successful and rewarding business is just icing on the cake. So Jim you ask: "So you want to be a photographer?" Seems to me that everyone is a photographer on this discussion board! :-))) Joan Lauren <www.joanlauren.com> Los Angeles, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 14:02:11 (EST) Thank you Jim for opening the discussion board for me to express my feelings about photography. When I was in high school I would watch the class photographer walk around with his camera equipment and I would think "now that's what I want to do". He went everywhere free of restrictions. He was his own boss. Since I was born independent :-) it seemed to be the perfect profession for me! I then took an art class to begin the process. In that class I was repeatedly told the way I was expressing my art was "wrong". I would ask the teacher, "how can a person's art and vision be wrong". Thus, I never took another class again! I am a self-taught photographer and very proud of it. I started slow with a roll of film and a used Nikon camera which a friend gave to me. Being an emotional person, I began shooting the way I felt. I did not put pressure on myself to be perfectly technical in the beginning. The technical side just grew as I grew. The more I wanted to express my feelings through the lens the more I wanted to know the technical side to make the photograph "sing". There are many open paths in photography. Each person has their successes. A friend recently came to me in need. She had just begun the journey of photography and was ready to quit! She wanted me to give her lessons on photography. I told her that I didn't know how to teach photography. Then after awhile I realized what she needed. In all the her classes, the tecnical and competion and demand for equipment, she had lost her passion and her heart to be a photographer. So we went out for an afternoon and I had her just shoot from her soul. She cried and laughed and had the best time. Last week she shot a cover of a magazine!... There was a time that I thought about photojournalism, but quickly knew it wasn't for me. Portraits: celebrities, children, pets, the human body and making coffee table books is my passion. To capture the light of the soul, is my focus. To leave the best of me behind in my photographs and my books is what drives me to be all that I can be. To have a very successful and rewarding business is just icing on the cake. So Jim you ask: "So you want to be a photographer?" Seems to me from all the messages I've read on this discussion board, that everyone is already a photographer! :-))) Joan Lauren <www.joanlauren.com> Los Angeles, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 14:04:37 (EST) Joan, Coooll, well said. We're all photographers in our own right whether a pro or amateur. You gotto do what you gotto do...no matter what it takes. You know I enjoy taking pictures of just about everything.....from flowers to scenics to people to news and sporting events and that's the neat thing about photography, especially in photojournalism. There's always something new and exciting awaiting around the next corner to take a picture of. A colleague once instilled in me at an early age, "There's nothing more useless than an unpublished photograph!" You know......I've taken more unpublished photographs for just the sheer joy of it. I know he's now rollin over in his grave for me saying those words, but isn't that's what it's all about the joy of photography and creating something creative? Cheers......got to go shoot a track meet!!!! Jim JIm Bryant <phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 17:31:44 (EST) Jim, Your name sounds sooooo familar..... did you happen to teach a class at the Rocky Mountain School of Photography in Missoula , Montana? Being a photojournalist do you know Rob Bartholomew or Dick Selby ( Idaho Press Tribune-Nampa, Idaho)? I shot for them for a while before I decided family came first. I had a lot of night assignments ( football, political assignments, etc.) and with two growing boys (11 & 8), I felt they needed me more right now. I would go for days with just being able to see them asleep.... It was probably the toughest descision that I have made. I LOVED It!!! I would ask for the crazy assignments , and Rob ( photo editor) would shake his head and laugh. I took a shot of a field of school kids spelling out " No Drugs" from up in a small home made Ultra- Light airplane. They are kind of like a go-cart with wings.... As we circled around in the air to get a good shot, the pilot asked me if the window was going to cause problems. I said well it would be nice if I had a clearer shot but this was fine. He then proceeded to open the window.... here I was almost hanging out the window with my camera dangling from my neck(he had banked so we could get a good angle)!!!!!!! It was great!!!! Another favorite shoot of mine was a wild horse round-up on B.L.M. land....they are so beautiful.We hid behind rocks that we had to hike to and around the corner they came... incredible. I've thought of going freelance and shooting for AP. Can you tell me any thing about that? How do they work their deadlines, etc.? Can you pick what you want to shoot? Or do they have specific assignments? Do you get paid by the photo or hourly? I know the contact in Salt Lake City, Utah and I'm seriously thinking about calling. I miss it so much. Right now I'm shooting Photos in a wide range from Little League Baseball to a backyard rodeo ( every Sunday I shoot for the kids riding bulls so they can see in the photos how they fall, how their arms are, etc.) to fine art photography for greeting cards.But it is just not the same.... I 'm sure you know what I mean. My husband calls me NUTS ( as he is watching a bull chase me around a barrel) but there is nothing else like it. You know?????? Take care . Dianne Humble <countrydreams@execu.net> Middleton,Idaho, u.s.a. - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 20:07:40 (EST) Dianne, No, I haven't taught at that particular workshop, but have in Florida, California and Washington. I know of Bartholomew's work, but not familar of the other photographer you spoke of. Randy Hayes of Idaho Falls Post Register is a good friend of mine. As for shooting for AP. They wanted me to sign a contract that basically gave them the rights to my film. I had to provide my own film, pay for processing and would only receive $125.00 per day. I couldn't stomach that, so I started freelancing for UPI. They pay $150.00 a day rate, and pay for all expenses plus 31.5 cents for mileage. And the most important thing is that I keep the film. I just can't resale the same image that I moved over the net for them. There's only about 25 of us that freelance for UPI nationwide. IF you want, email me and I'll send you the address of their Headquarters in Washington, D.C. Most deadlines are daily..right after the assignments are shot, so you need to have a fast computer, with plenty of RAM and Adobe Photoshop 5.0 and film scanner so that you can FTP (file transfer) the images to them as jpegs. Cheers!!!! Jim Jim Bryant <Phojo@oz.net> Port Orchard, USA - Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 22:49:24 (EST) Dear Alx, I don't know why but I feel that something is not working the way you have expected. Today is the dead line to send in the signed contract forms (see your project rules; #10 Notification of Winners) and we are out here (or where ever) don't even know where we are standing (which photo(s) are excepted to the capsule from the notified individuals, which one of the photos may get into the planned book, who are the winners of the different categories, what is the new dead line, etc…) I think that I'm not the only one who wanders about your silence. Can we be any help to you? If you have a problem, any kind (related to the project) please share it with us. By not communicating with us everything will go sour. Don't take my enquires that I'm inpatient …. Rome was not built a day…, but keep us inform. Thanks, Attila Attila <attila_the_magyar> Canada - Friday, March 31, 2000 at 09:56:36 (EST) Hi all, Just catching up on all the latest posts...Actually, I was inspired to write a little something after reading Jim Bryant's resume. Very impressive to say the least. I just wanted to add my humble opinion to the effect that although we may not all aspire to Jim's credentials, our art, or should I say, our devotion to it, is what is of import. Every moment frozen through the lens is like the long journey...It is not so much the destination as it is the journey itself that matters. Walk the path long enough, and the destinations we seek will appear. One of the most exquisite things in life are the oppourtunities that occur serendipitously. I love to drown in the small thrills. When the big ones - like the Millennium Project - come around, it makes life worth living. It has been a pure source of joy to me these past weeks to soak in all the enthusiasim and excitment of those whose lives have been revolving around the project. What Jim said about the privations of a serious shooter's life is very true, but the rewards make it all worth it. Please all, do not let the party end.... Dante Staciokas <pahilndr@bellsouth.net> Orlando,Fl., U.S.A. - Friday, March 31, 2000 at 22:56:19 (EST) Hello All, I have just returned from vacation and took a few minutes to read all the messages posted since I left. As an American (and a US citizen) I must say that we should let Pierre voice his opinion. Whether any of us agree with his opinion or not, Pierre should be allowed to express his views. If you do not like what he says, I suggest you ignore his posts or write a rebuttal. I did not get involved with the Project for money or tangible rewards. I have worked as a volunteer for this project for nearly a year now. At first, I was very interested to see how this endeavor would come together almost entirely over the internet. It has been truly amazing. As this project has snowballed, I have seen the great potential this project has to continue beyond the year 2000. We have brought together photographers from all over the globe. If you are interested in finding out about other photographic opportunities beyond this Project, stay tuned to the Latest News page of this web site. Currently there is information about freelancing for the Great Outdoor Recreation Pages and opportunities for women in photography. Previously there was information about freelancing for a magazine called Faces. These are worldwide opportunities. If you have information about a project that we could participate in, please let the guys (and girls) at HQ know about it. Let's go beyond the project and help each other make more success stories. Thanks. Amy Sides <amy@millenniumphoto.com> Tuscaloosa, United States - Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 02:05:40 (EST) Back to Archived Messages Index Back to Crew Headquarters